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  • diditevenfund's Avatar
    Today, 05:05 PM
    Anyone who claims they "never have had a default" does like 2 deals a month max. Lol
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  • Finance's Avatar
    Today, 04:48 PM
    Newcdam, your incredulity is remarkable and you keep contradicting yourself, incessantly. A few examples of this: -You at first said you'd have been paid after 90 days, now you're saying 160 days -You say you're not a "one and done", you stay in touch with your clients etc., well, if that's the case, you wouldn't be relying on one single transaction to support your overhead, would you not have a macrame of clients you make money from by servicing them? -You say "we have not had any defaults under our record", really? Do you truly believe that your practices promote a 0% default rate or believe you along with all of us are completely infallible and for decades capital providers have been seeking that idealistic 0% default rate to no avail, because it's incontrovertibly impossible. You're flummoxed over one commission, this implies you're in your nascent stages, maybe 5-10 transactions on your book since your inception. Exceptions don't disprove the generality, as volume persists, you will undoubtedly have a default no matter what you do, another example of the very idealistic and contradictory mentality you still haven't realized is facilitating your acceleration out of the industry. -You say you're synonymous with integrity in the eyes of your funders, how they "call you first" etc., but here you are first in line to abdicate responsibility and understanding when one of your cherished partners has understandable discomfort in a transaction and maintained communications with you regarding this, ultimately implying they are going to pay you once their concerns are ameliorated and now you're spouting how you have no bearing on the file after 30 days and you seemingly have no concern about it succeeding or failing because you won't be taking the hit. Contradictory, that's not a genuine partnership where you're equally as invested in your partners success as you are your own success. The second something doesn't go your way, in your extremely idealistic frame, you castigate the very resource you make money from like an angry toddler but simultaneously make proclamations of being different from the rest of the brokers? I can't believe what I'm reading and I can't believe you actually believe the reprehensibly feverish sewage you're exuding. You need to wake up and see how execrably foolish you've made yourself out to be. And the reason I'm telling you this is because people like you negatively impact my business in aggregate, you make brokers look like desperate whiny inbreds who have zero concern for anything aside from their commission, even if it results in the burning of the funders they make money from. You make brokers look unprofessional and infantile. You need to open your eyes and realize if you continue to operate this way and fail to understand every side of the very transactions you make money from that you'll not only fail to make money, but you'll equally have such a terrible reputation that you won't have any resources left to service your ever so pristine clients who don't default. You are the reason funders like BlueVine, without warning, cut off all of their ISOs at once, you make us look like unprofessional leeches and it's so disconcerting to deal with your kind that they do whatever they can to cut brokers out of the equation. People like you hurt all of our ability to make money, publicly crying on an industry wide forum incoherently representing brokers for all to see, forcing negative interpretations of brokers because the loud minority (YOU) is always the most visibly noticed in our current society like a deleterious poison infecting and deteriorating all positive associations with it with a complete lack of concern for the negative implications exacted and resulted by you, progressively destroying your own reputation along with subtly misrepresenting brokers as a whole. This is what impractical and overt emotion does, it skews one's ability to see things for how they are, and their feverish emotion fuels their own downfall along with everyone around them. If you don't do a complete 180 I'd give you another 6 months max in the industry. Sorry, harsh reality, it doesn't have to be though, you can learn from this and change, but you've proven despite many learning opportunities presented to you on this thread alone that you will continue to operate with emotion instead of competence and understanding, which means whatever happens this point forward after many iterations of knowledge inculcation is on you. Speaking for all here, please refrain from ever posting again unless you change and realize your inhibitions because until that day comes, you'll be doing nothing aside from staining your reputation along with every other brokers reputation. Good luck.
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  • STAR CAP's Avatar
    Today, 04:27 PM
    I fund previous defaults. Send the deal to subs@starcapitalsolutions.org or if you would like an iso agreement first what is your email? David Z Star Capital Solutions Chief Executive Officer 40 Wall St New York, NY 10005
    1 replies | 113 view(s) | |
  • Zonefund's Avatar
    Today, 03:40 PM
    Whats your lowest buy rate? It'll be good to have another canadian funder. Per what this iso said, if u gave an 8 month turn to a merchant with a criminal records, means you guys will be solid to use as a funder.
    47 replies | 2761 view(s) | |
  • PopCrumbs's Avatar
    Today, 03:28 PM
    I’m shocked they will take a card. Do it. You can always dispute the charge if it’s not what they say it is. Use an Amex they are most on your side. Regarding minimums. Most lead companies will have one. Just like most funders have a minimum. And just like funding a $5k deal is 10x more work than funding a $50k deal so is selling someone $200 in leads. As soon as someone asks to spend $500 as their max we basically won’t waste anymore time with them.
    16 replies | 301 view(s) | |
  • NEWCDAM's Avatar
    Today, 03:24 PM
    One deal and done is not what we do, nor is it the service we provide. We actually build and maintain relationships with our clients, and walk them through the process/ don't disappear on them (especially if it's their first advance). The "FUNDERS" actually call us first if there is a bounced payment and we call the Merchant immediately and stay on top of the situation, which is what they did with us. We actually did ONTAP a HUGE service getting a file back on track, so I don't understand your "feel bad" if the funder is actually getting paid thanks to the broker. Because of this, we have not had any defaults under our record. So I don't know what your definition of "one deal and done" is but that does not describe us. Thank you.
    47 replies | 2761 view(s) | |
  • Zonefund's Avatar
    Today, 03:19 PM
    You can sue anyone in america. If they lose, then that means, salesforce is possibly the best option other then building your own crm.
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  • Oxforddan's Avatar
    Today, 03:07 PM
    If the MERCHANT actually DID DEFAULT, they would be in collections. NOT still paying the Lender directly. As we are currently a few days shy of the 30day period, we as the broker should not have to continue to be subject to deal with it if our clawback period is only 30days. FYI they are a "funder" not a "Lender" Normally I wouldn't nitpick this but clearly you need to pay better attention to details.
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  • Oxforddan's Avatar
    Today, 03:03 PM
    I feel bad for Ontap here. When I have a deal that goes bad I prefer to send back the commission with an apology about giving them a bad deal instead of having it debited. Apparently that's pretty rare, which has led to some interesting conversations about how many of these one deal and done shops don't even honor a clawback. If I was Ontap I would not only wait until I recouped all the funds that I disbursed I would wait till i collected enough return to cover the commission, then I would send it. However by then it seems they will have already won in court and they can just keep it. This industry never ceases to amaze me.
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  • Jason Sterling's Avatar
    Today, 02:44 PM
    Jason Sterling replied to a thread TIB 3 Months in Deal Bin
    We consider at 4 months TIB. Credit card sales based MCA only.
    5 replies | 242 view(s) | |
  • diditevenfund's Avatar
    Today, 02:43 PM
    uh oh.......
    30 replies | 3931 view(s) | |
  • SendDocsPlox's Avatar
    Today, 02:34 PM
    https://fintalknow.com/centrex_lawsuit Ayyy lmaooo
    30 replies | 3931 view(s) | |
  • NEWCDAM's Avatar
    Today, 02:24 PM
    I had nothing against Diana you just work there. But don't gaslight our conversation and jump into "Broker starts verbally harassing us" Explain why I verbally got upset. I called the MERCHANT to find out what the situation was and there was a payroll issue waiting for a check to clear, but it cleared. WE (the broker) made sure that the merchant fixed the situation and paid ONTAP. Now the merchant has triple sitting in his account and is paying you ON TIME everyday. Because of that, you said you will see if we can get paid friday, so I called on thursday to confirm and Jay said we wont be able to get paid until the 17th. Pissed off and irate I further tried to understand and he said he will see what he can do. I called back and said this is a "problematic file" and a "default" and we would not be able to get paid until the backend of the deal. Now Im furious, and ONLY because of that frustration is the reason I brought up this DEBATE to discuss opinions and options with other experienced brokers. A DEBATE is not slander. Our contract clearly states clawback period is 30days and we should've originally been paid within 7 business days. Now I get the need to want to see if things get current and you want to hold off on paying. But waiting until 160days is finished is not anywhere in our contract. The only people in default in my opinion is ONTAP. You agreed to take on this risk and responsibility, and the merchant is compliant and paying daily. Where is the respect for the broker. There isn't any! You're PENALIZING the broker for something the MERCHANT has done, NOT for something the broker has. If clawback is only 30days why do we have to wait 160? We have a contract in place. Brokers are the ones bringing you deals, but you have no respect to pay the broker so they actually can take care of their business to market, bring new clients, and pay their employees. There is nothing "personal" about those reasons. OFFICE RENT OVERHEAD and BILLS need to be paid. We have done our job but you are FAULTING us as if we created or IGNORED his schedule of payments, and now our relationship is obstructed because there is no TRUST between the broker and the lender now, ESPECIALLY if a lender refuses to pay according the original contractual agreement. If the MERCHANT actually DID DEFAULT, they would be in collections. NOT still paying the Lender directly. As we are currently a few days shy of the 30day period, we as the broker should not have to continue to be subject to deal with it if our clawback period is only 30days. In my opinion, if the Merchant is paying as agreed, and there has been no further issue, the only person in default is the Lender for not paying the Broker. Don't care if that is the way things are, there should be more protections for the broker to enforce an ISO Agreement. As a broker, we should've never trusted the LENDER for a "try". Moving forward we would not trust a Lender who is afraid to pay the broker on the same day/ next day. In my opinion, that is just a ploy to X the broker out of a deal. Because let's say they actually do default, but then pay in full after default. The broker STILL won't get paid for the work they've done. Hats off to the LENDERS who don't drag brokers into the risk they agree to take, offering same day pay and ZERO clawbacks.
    47 replies | 2761 view(s) | |
  • goldenhippo80's Avatar
    Today, 12:46 PM
    If you want an all in one system, Close.io has a great power dialer along with everything else like sms and email blasts. Do a free trial, It's totally worth it for the price.
    3 replies | 89 view(s) | |
  • Dominic S's Avatar
    Today, 12:15 PM
    Who's funding previous defaults ?
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  • JasonBishop's Avatar
    Today, 11:52 AM
    You'll get a better feeling buying a homeless person a meal. Don't enable the animals from keeping doing what they are doing. I'm telling you it's not legitimate.
    16 replies | 301 view(s) | |
  • aaron4235's Avatar
    Today, 11:46 AM
    Thats what i was thinking honestly. Just send him a couple bucks to see. 50$ wont kill me.
    16 replies | 301 view(s) | |
  • GetCapitalNow's Avatar
    Today, 11:30 AM
    No one will do what this guys is offering. Its likely impossible. I would risk $50-$100 Which can get you about 5 "leads". See if he sends it. Most likely will respond with "we have a minimum requirement" Keep us posted. If he turns out legit lol, you got a goldmine.
    16 replies | 301 view(s) | |
  • goldenhippo80's Avatar
    Today, 11:22 AM
    Do not send this scammer any money. Lexicon has good data for cold calling and so does Meridian
    16 replies | 301 view(s) | |
  • aaron4235's Avatar
    Today, 11:20 AM
    We tried dumbleads, That was joke. The guy was super weird and sent us like a list of merchants who one half have been out of business for years and like half of them answered were widowed. Moved on to Cashyew. These seem a little better. Might try Meridian next?
    16 replies | 301 view(s) | |
  • aaron4235's Avatar
    Today, 11:14 AM
    He dm'ed us on IG. I asked him for a sample and he sent me like a recording of a call, A bunch of partial screenshots of a spread sheet, some merchants bank statement and a completed app. LOL. Doesn't really seem legit. But listening to the recording, the idea of getting someone prequalified on the phone who actually wants to talk sounds pretty good to me. Was thinking about sending this guy like 45$ and seeing what he could give me. Or trying some other lead sources that do similar things
    16 replies | 301 view(s) | |
  • diditevenfund's Avatar
    Today, 11:10 AM
    Phoneburner is a good option.
    3 replies | 89 view(s) | |
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  • GetCapitalNow's Avatar
    Today, 11:01 AM
    My opinion, this sounds to good to be true and it probably is. Not only are they promising Live transfers, but a full file where they do the chasing for only $15 bucks a pop. Live transfers alone go for $30/ea on the low end. Ive bought these offers below multiple times. Here is what happened: 1) They never deliver and say there is an issue or just stop answering 2) you get 1 or 2 files, you get excited that it actually is true and then no more files. My advice, either pay after delivery, pay prorated amount or on a weekly basis, or take a smaller order that you don't mind losing money on to build a trust Did you get a cold email on this?
    16 replies | 301 view(s) | |
  • diditevenfund's Avatar
    Today, 10:54 AM
    This is the wildcard, no leads = no business. Cultivating and building relationships with the leads vs buying scratch offs is key, you need good drip campaigns, a good online presence, not just offering MCAs etc. The best leads are real time generated leads via advertising, but comes at a steep cost. If resources are tight this can quickly bury your shop. Consider linking up with a known lead company and try a blend of older and newer aged leads, live calls etc. The legitimate companies dont email spam you about their "packs" and other "exclusive" leads.
    16 replies | 301 view(s) | |
  • aaron4235's Avatar
    Today, 10:43 AM
    A little background, I was previously working with a big broker shop. About 80 guys on the sales floor. Commissions percents were god awful. They had us on 15/85 split. Recently left to start up my own with a few buddies. Never had to worry about lead sources because they were always good. I was sending about 2-4 subs a day and did about 250 calls. So the leads were pretty good. The leads we have bought the last couple times have been total dog****. So we're starting to explore our more expensive lead options.
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  • diditevenfund's Avatar
    Today, 10:24 AM
    Live transfers can be decent, but only work with a company that you don't feel you have to post questions about. Look them up, if the social proof is there and they have a good reputation give it a shot, if you have to post questions to DF about the provider, avoid.
    16 replies | 301 view(s) | |
  • aaron4235's Avatar
    Today, 10:17 AM
    This is what he sent me I highly recommend our fresh and exclusive leads. We will use your own app and we will deliver them through live calls Cost is $1500 for 100 leads Let me tell you the whole process: We will call the business owners, prequalify them based on your business requirements, send your own application and once we have all the complete documents back then we will transfer them directly to you We send the documents first before we transfer the call To insure the quality of the leads while transferring the calls we will stay on the line for 2 minutes maximum before we drop the call You will get 10 apps per day until the order is complete Lead Conditions ► In business at least 2 years ► FICO Credit Score of 620+ ► Business Revenue of at least $50,000 a month of collectible receivables for at least 90 days ► No unresolved business loan/MCA defaults or judgements ► Demonstrated payment history (where applicable) ► Business account – capital positive & capacity capable Consider adding: ► At least 12 months left on lease if renting the business location ► No open bankruptcies in the last 12 months ► Current with landlord REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION: • Application (completed by at least 51% of ownership) • current business checking account MTD statement (all pages) • Copy of Driver’s License (or gov-issued ID) • Last 4 months statements (all pages) • Proof of Business Ownership • Voided check Restricted industries are as follows: Trucking of any kind Financial Services Pawn Shops Credit Repair Services Law Firms / Lawyers Adult Industries (Night Clubs, Topless Clubs) Vape Shops, Tobacco Shops, Marijuana Shops
    16 replies | 301 view(s) | |
  • greg's Avatar
    Today, 10:16 AM
    What lender can do $400k business lines of credit, LOC for a commercial construction business with $200k - $300k monthly deposits, and 660 credit scores ?
    0 replies | 46 view(s)
  • greg's Avatar
    Today, 10:02 AM
    n/a
    7 replies | 406 view(s) | |
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