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    To me its always a red flag when a company rep says " nobody backdoors here". Its impossible to know and its rampant across the board. I used to label my bank statements in a discreet way and had my reps who i trusted at these funders be on the lookout for subs that come with my labeled statements so I have "busted" even the most reputable shops ( would customize the bank statemnt label for each sub and actually caused a few reps at certain shops to be relieved of their jobs).. But I no longer waste time being a detective as I saw how widespread it is . Of course when I find out with certainty its happening I limit my subs there unless despite the backdooring I am still converting alot with said funder. But no matter what you do security wise all it takes is one rogue employee to want to make alot of extra side money for the backdorring to happen. My advice is keep your focus on the shops that convert for you and dont just blast out every sub. Limiting the exposure will limit the backdooring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexd12345 View Post
    To me its always a red flag when a company rep says " nobody backdoors here". Its impossible to know and its rampant across the board. I used to label my bank statements in a discreet way and had my reps who i trusted at these funders be on the lookout for subs that come with my labeled statements so I have "busted" even the most reputable shops ( would customize the bank statemnt label for each sub and actually caused a few reps at certain shops to be relieved of their jobs).. But I no longer waste time being a detective as I saw how widespread it is . Of course when I find out with certainty its happening I limit my subs there unless despite the backdooring I am still converting alot with said funder. But no matter what you do security wise all it takes is one rogue employee to want to make alot of extra side money for the backdorring to happen. My advice is keep your focus on the shops that convert for you and dont just blast out every sub. Limiting the exposure will limit the backdooring.
    One rogue employee, one rogue merchant, one rogue broker.

    One thing I have noticed is that once a deal gets submitted anywhere, it will spread to others somehow.

    If I can recall, don't some funders have on their agreements the right to solicit after X amount of days?

    Another observation is the amount of employee turnaround shops have, I'm sure there can be a rogue individual as well.

    A "super" broker deal is also something to look at where you would assume a "backdoor" practice occurred.
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    Rob is one of the biggest losers in this industry, it does not surprise me that he tried to steal data from a company.
    Can jared peruse this legally ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyR3712 View Post
    Rob is one of the biggest losers in this industry, it does not surprise me that he tried to steal data from a company.
    Can jared peruse this legally ?
    i like how his signature says "Dedicated to Excellence" yet they ask for backdoored files. Talk about practicing what you preach. Do better Rob Pearlman and Coconut Funding or just remove that phrase from your signature so you dont look like such a clown.

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    I tried subbing to coconut.

    No offer for 2-3 days.

    Sold the deal elsewhere. 2 weeks later deal gets sent to debt consol lawyers. I requested it and the merchant showed me a group text where they referred him to a debt consol company. It is the mca space as a whole that is toxic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonefund View Post
    I tried subbing to coconut.

    No offer for 2-3 days.

    Sold the deal elsewhere. 2 weeks later deal gets sent to debt consol lawyers. I requested it and the merchant showed me a group text where they referred him to a debt consol company. It is the mca space as a whole that is toxic.
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    can you pst screenshot?

    I havent subbed to them and now I obvs will never in teh future

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexd12345 View Post
    To me its always a red flag when a company rep says " nobody backdoors here". Its impossible to know and its rampant across the board. I used to label my bank statements in a discreet way and had my reps who i trusted at these funders be on the lookout for subs that come with my labeled statements so I have "busted" even the most reputable shops ( would customize the bank statemnt label for each sub and actually caused a few reps at certain shops to be relieved of their jobs).. But I no longer waste time being a detective as I saw how widespread it is . Of course when I find out with certainty its happening I limit my subs there unless despite the backdooring I am still converting alot with said funder. But no matter what you do security wise all it takes is one rogue employee to want to make alot of extra side money for the backdorring to happen. My advice is keep your focus on the shops that convert for you and dont just blast out every sub. Limiting the exposure will limit the backdooring.


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