[seanlarson64]

How To Get The Freshest Leads In The Business

^^^^^^^^^

I know I'm probably a complete jerk for saying this lol, but I just still believe the vast majority of "lead" generation companies are a waste of time/money.

I still have no idea why any company that has perfected the systematic "art" of generating real, quality, consistent leads that could be easily boarded with $2,000 to $10,000 commission each....is going to sell that to another broker for $10 to $30. Even if they sell it to 20 brokers, we are still only talking about $200 to $600.

Either the lead generator is the worse business man in history or the "leads" aren't real/quality leads....but instead the quality of the leads are similar to that of an OVER-PRICED phone book listing or UCC filing.

Let's see here. I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't like selling the deals. My passion is in digital marketing and I've been building online businesses for 3 years now. I'm not particularly passionate about sitting there all day selling high interest business loans to business owners. It's good money but I don't like dealing with financial instruments. That's just me.

[WestCoastFunding]

Let's see here. I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't like selling the deals. My passion is in digital marketing and I've been building online businesses for 3 years now.

Considering your passion is "digital marketing" you sure suck at it. Lets look at the reasons:

1) Your website sucks
- Looks awful (you managed to screw up the template you were given).
- Just 2 pages of meant content
- Poor use of title tags
- Retarded/pointless use of subdomain
- Terrible URL formatting of your 2nd page (basic SEO no-nos)
- Useless template content that you allow to be live:
- https://lendnet.io/blog/hello-world/
- https://lendnet.io/lend-networks/

2) Your SEO Sucks
- Lendnet.io doesn't show up in Google at all. Think about that: if you search for "lendnet" your site doesn't show up. It gets worse: even put in a search for "lendnet.io" and your website still doesn't show in Google.

It takes a special type of incompetent for a "digital marketing specialist" to fail at getting their own website listed on Google for ... searches of their website. What a joke.

3) There is No Internet Footprint of Your Company
- Do you actually have a business in good standing? If so, what is it?
- Company phone number?
- Business address?


Your website is amateur hour. And the added animation on your 2nd page is just sad/pathetic. What's the point? You say digital marketing is your passion -- if so, you need to find a new passion. Your digital marketing skills are pure garbage.

[seanlarson64]

yo you're wasting time. get back on the phone and start dialing. because that is the only way you'll ever get leads. and get off my thread and trying to create drama. if you don't like what you see, move on. all i see are a bunch of people with plenty of time on their hands to troll and argue. i wont be responding after this post unless its a legitimate inquiry from a legitimate business owner.

[WestCoastFunding]

yo you're wasting time. get back on the phone and start dialing. because that is the only way you'll ever get leads. and get off my thread and trying to create drama. if you don't like what you see, move on. all i see are a bunch of people with plenty of time on their hands to troll and argue. i wont be responding after this post unless its a legitimate inquiry from a legitimate business owner.

Go fix that piece of **** website. That janky mess will never get you a lead.

[jotucker1983]

Let's see here. I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't like selling the deals. My passion is in digital marketing and I've been building online businesses for 3 years now. I'm not particularly passionate about sitting there all day selling high interest business loans to business owners. It's good money but I don't like dealing with financial instruments. That's just me.

Buddy that's a good explanation and I've heard it before, but I think it comes down to what exactly constitues a "lead"? Because in my opinion, if you are actually selling "real leads" to brokers, then you've already done 97% of the job, the other 3% is literally sending emails back and forth between yourself, the merchant, and the funder.

So if you are going to sell me a "real lead" for an MCA or Short Term Business Loan, to me that "real lead" will include all of the following:

- Basic Info: Name of business, type of industry, address, years in business, gross sales, contact name, contact number, and contact email address.

- Specific Product Confirmation: The merchant understands that I sell an MCA/Alternative Short Term Business Loan, has an "idea" in general what the terms will be (6 to 18 months with cost for capital 20% to 45%) and the merchant is "okay" with this type of product and is looking for quotes right now.

- Date: The date you collected the information

This is what I would need as a bare minimum coming into the situation. I would personally like additional pre-qual info (such as if there's outstanding MCA balances, estimated fico, etc.) but I could collect that info on my end assuming that this isn't a UCC filing lead (which it very well could be).

From what I've gathered, even this bare minimum information isn't being collected by a lot of lead generators.

They might just collect the "Basic Info" listings above and that's it. Basically, they just have the name and number of a guy that says he wants "business capital", which doesn't really tell me anything because what business owner DOESN'T want business capital??

It's not the desire of business capital that's the problem, it's the terms/conditions associated with the type of business capital the owner qualifies for that determines if we have anything cooking or not.

[seanlarson64]

Buddy that's a good explanation and I've heard it before, but I think it comes down to what exactly constitues a "lead"? Because in my opinion, if you are actually selling "real leads" to brokers, then you've already done 97% of the job, the other 3% is literally sending emails back and forth between yourself, the merchant, and the funder.

So if you are going to sell me a "real lead" for an MCA or Short Term Business Loan, to me that "real lead" will include all of the following:

- Basic Info: Name of business, type of industry, address, years in business, gross sales, contact name, contact number, and contact email address.

- Specific Product Confirmation: The merchant understands that I sell an MCA/Alternative Short Term Business Loan, has an "idea" in general what the terms will be (6 to 18 months with cost for capital 20% to 45%) and the merchant is "okay" with this type of product and is looking for quotes right now.

- Date: The date you collected the information

This is what I would need as a bare minimum coming into the situation. I would personally like additional pre-qual info (such as if there's outstanding MCA balances, estimated fico, etc.) but I could collect that info on my end assuming that this isn't a UCC filing lead (which it very well could be).

From what I've gathered, even this bare minimum information isn't being collected by a lot of lead generators.

They might just collect the "Basic Info" listings above and that's it. Basically, they just have the name and number of a guy that says he wants "business capital", which doesn't really tell me anything because what business owner DOESN'T want business capital??

It's not the desire of business capital that's the problem, it's the terms/conditions associated with the type of business capital the owner qualifies for that determines if we have anything cooking or not.

i use the same type of tech backend and marketing processes that ondeck / lendio / fundera use to generate paper, which is why in my video I stated that "just because a guy clicked here or there, doesn't mean he qualifies". i dont resell leads or do generic digital marketing

also... is there a way to block or ignore people like JasonBishop and WestCoastFunding? They come in here and start trying to talk **** and wasting everyones time.

[WestCoastFunding]

i use the same type of tech backend and marketing processes that ondeck / lendio / fundera use to generate paper. i dont resell leads or do generic digital marketing.

No one who visits that website of yours believes there is a tech backend attached to that janky ****.

[jotucker1983]

i use the same type of tech backend and marketing processes that ondeck / lendio / fundera use to generate paper, which is why in my video I stated that "just because a guy clicked here or there, doesn't mean he qualifies". i dont resell leads or do generic digital marketing

Maybe I need to check out the video, I didn't get all the way to the end, but what does your services include? Are you just selling the marketing service or blasts in general?

also... is there a way to block or ignore people like JasonBishop and WestCoastFunding? They come in here and start trying to talk **** and wasting everyones time.

Yes, you can just click on the person's name, click View Profile, then click Add To Ignore List. Daily Funder can be a nice networking source, but the anonymous nature of the website makes it so that a lot of people act a bit out of pocket on here, in a way that they might not act if you were engaging them in person.

Notwithstanding, the topic of lead generation is interesting and is worth debating because I'm in the camp that says you really can't effectively "buy" leads externally, you can only generate them in-house through your own direct marketing strategies and referral sources.

[seanlarson64]

Cool I ignored them. And you're right that you can't buy leads externally and that you should have your own inbound lead gen system. And that's what I do. Except that I work from the outside. Instead of you hiring me as an employee. I create your advertising assets, creatives, funnels, and backend tech to get the bank statements and all of that stuff. Then I run traffic to those funnels and get you leads for your specific company. There's so many schmucks selling old lead data on here it's ridiculous. In fact I got conned by one of them back in 2014 when I was working at this place downtown.