[goldenhippo80]

Micah...that's kind of my point...I have several real estate deals right now - one where the broker charged up front fees and another where splitting my fee with him is not enough for him. Getting 10 points + on a MCA plus lender charging 10% plus third party fee is pretty extreme. Sooner or later I think the government, the lenders and maybe the market will outlaw this.

Yes, I knew a shop that would get 15 points from a deal and after the funder funded the file they would say oh wait you forgot to sign this 10% PSF and the money won't be released until it's signed. I've seen them do it on 100k+ deals. It's not right, I agree with you on this one Steve.