[seanlarson64]

yo you're wasting time. get back on the phone and start dialing. because that is the only way you'll ever get leads. and get off my thread and trying to create drama. if you don't like what you see, move on. all i see are a bunch of people with plenty of time on their hands to troll and argue. i wont be responding after this post unless its a legitimate inquiry from a legitimate business owner.

[WestCoastFunding]

yo you're wasting time. get back on the phone and start dialing. because that is the only way you'll ever get leads. and get off my thread and trying to create drama. if you don't like what you see, move on. all i see are a bunch of people with plenty of time on their hands to troll and argue. i wont be responding after this post unless its a legitimate inquiry from a legitimate business owner.

Go fix that piece of **** website. That janky mess will never get you a lead.

[seanlarson64]

Buddy that's a good explanation and I've heard it before, but I think it comes down to what exactly constitues a "lead"? Because in my opinion, if you are actually selling "real leads" to brokers, then you've already done 97% of the job, the other 3% is literally sending emails back and forth between yourself, the merchant, and the funder.

So if you are going to sell me a "real lead" for an MCA or Short Term Business Loan, to me that "real lead" will include all of the following:

- Basic Info: Name of business, type of industry, address, years in business, gross sales, contact name, contact number, and contact email address.

- Specific Product Confirmation: The merchant understands that I sell an MCA/Alternative Short Term Business Loan, has an "idea" in general what the terms will be (6 to 18 months with cost for capital 20% to 45%) and the merchant is "okay" with this type of product and is looking for quotes right now.

- Date: The date you collected the information

This is what I would need as a bare minimum coming into the situation. I would personally like additional pre-qual info (such as if there's outstanding MCA balances, estimated fico, etc.) but I could collect that info on my end assuming that this isn't a UCC filing lead (which it very well could be).

From what I've gathered, even this bare minimum information isn't being collected by a lot of lead generators.

They might just collect the "Basic Info" listings above and that's it. Basically, they just have the name and number of a guy that says he wants "business capital", which doesn't really tell me anything because what business owner DOESN'T want business capital??

It's not the desire of business capital that's the problem, it's the terms/conditions associated with the type of business capital the owner qualifies for that determines if we have anything cooking or not.

i use the same type of tech backend and marketing processes that ondeck / lendio / fundera use to generate paper, which is why in my video I stated that "just because a guy clicked here or there, doesn't mean he qualifies". i dont resell leads or do generic digital marketing

also... is there a way to block or ignore people like JasonBishop and WestCoastFunding? They come in here and start trying to talk **** and wasting everyones time.

[WestCoastFunding]

i use the same type of tech backend and marketing processes that ondeck / lendio / fundera use to generate paper. i dont resell leads or do generic digital marketing.

No one who visits that website of yours believes there is a tech backend attached to that janky ****.

[jotucker1983]

i use the same type of tech backend and marketing processes that ondeck / lendio / fundera use to generate paper, which is why in my video I stated that "just because a guy clicked here or there, doesn't mean he qualifies". i dont resell leads or do generic digital marketing

Maybe I need to check out the video, I didn't get all the way to the end, but what does your services include? Are you just selling the marketing service or blasts in general?

also... is there a way to block or ignore people like JasonBishop and WestCoastFunding? They come in here and start trying to talk **** and wasting everyones time.

Yes, you can just click on the person's name, click View Profile, then click Add To Ignore List. Daily Funder can be a nice networking source, but the anonymous nature of the website makes it so that a lot of people act a bit out of pocket on here, in a way that they might not act if you were engaging them in person.

Notwithstanding, the topic of lead generation is interesting and is worth debating because I'm in the camp that says you really can't effectively "buy" leads externally, you can only generate them in-house through your own direct marketing strategies and referral sources.

[seanlarson64]

Cool I ignored them. And you're right that you can't buy leads externally and that you should have your own inbound lead gen system. And that's what I do. Except that I work from the outside. Instead of you hiring me as an employee. I create your advertising assets, creatives, funnels, and backend tech to get the bank statements and all of that stuff. Then I run traffic to those funnels and get you leads for your specific company. There's so many schmucks selling old lead data on here it's ridiculous. In fact I got conned by one of them back in 2014 when I was working at this place downtown.

[KINGCASH]

Takes ton of SEO/PPC (paying top dollar/click) to rank in such an industry to get lucky to rank for keyword not even close to relevant of what you're targeting. Few years back, there were backlinks etc. that would rank quick, but doesn't work like it used to. In fact, would most probably get penalized for doing so.

Would need at least six months to rank of some key word 1% of google population would get to.

[HDF]

Any Merchant who uploads their bank statements and application through your "technology" you develop for broker/Isos, is a fool and unfortunately they and the broker will live to regret it in the end.

This is nothing new, nor nearly worth the time already wasted on a pillow fight on here.

[WestCoastFunding]

Takes ton of SEO/PPC (paying top dollar/click) to rank in such an industry to get lucky to rank for keyword not even close to relevant of what you're targeting. Few years back, there were backlinks etc. that would rank quick, but doesn't work like it used to. In fact, would most probably get penalized for doing so.

Would need at least six months to rank of some key word 1% of google population would get to.

Really comes down to this (from a SEO standpoint):

- Build-out an expansive website (that engages users, and causes them to both stay on website for substantial time, and to click on pages and create "actions" like application and/or contact form submissions.)
- Add new content to the website daily (at least 1,000 words)
- Make sure title tags are optimized
- Effectively internally link your pages
- Work like hell to add white-hat backlinks

And then, even working to add quality content daily, it will still take a minimum of 6 months to start ranking these days. If you got involved with the SEO game a couple years ago it was easier to rank. But now, with how saturated this industry is online, you'll need to fight like hell to push the others out of the top 10 search results for any keyword.

[seanlarson64]

Any Merchant who uploads their bank statements and application through your "technology" you develop for broker/Isos, is a fool and unfortunately they and the broker will live to regret it in the end.

This is nothing new, nor nearly worth the time already wasted on a pillow fight on here.

they dont upload statements, there are two options: 1. they can login to their bank and their statements are auto-retrieved from the bank using an API... or 2. they can upload PDF versions of the statements. This process is similar to how the big companies have their tech platforms set up.

[WestCoastFunding]

they dont upload statements, there are two options: 1. they can login to their bank and their statements are auto-retrieved from the bank using an API... or 2. they can upload PDF versions of the statements. This process is similar to how the big companies have their tech platforms set up.

Or you can setup a simple website upload link attached to a Dropbox account. This guy is offering stuff that anyone can setup in 30 seconds.

[KINGCASH]

Really comes down to this (from a SEO standpoint):

- Build-out an expansive website (that engages users, and causes them to both stay on website for substantial time, and to click on pages and create "actions" like application and/or contact form submissions.)
- Add new content to the website daily (at least 1,000 words)
- Make sure title tags are optimized
- Effectively internally link your pages
- Work like hell to add white-hat backlinks

And then, even working to add quality content daily, it will still take a minimum of 6 months to start ranking these days. If you got involved with the SEO game a couple years ago it was easier to rank. But now, with how saturated this industry is online, you'll need to fight like hell to push the others out of the top 10 search results for any keyword.

Agreed^^

[admin]

Nah. The rules say its fine.

Thanks for coming. I hope you enjoyed your stay.

[Anthony@torro]

I called it ^^

[DonMcGrath]

I called it ^^

Yo Anthony meet at the track tonight, I got some four leggeds from Dubai I need you to pick out for me. Real talk.

[PopCrumbs]

The OP should ask Sam Ovens for his money back.

[Anthony@torro]

Yo Anthony meet at the track tonight, I got some four leggeds from Dubai I need you to pick out for me. Real talk.

I'll be there let me know which car to bring.

Edit: I guess you're referring to horses, I'm not coming anymore.

[Enablement Data]

This is for ISOs and Funders only. It is not for lead providers like Jason Bishop (he works at UFinancial Financial Planning company and does lead gen on the side with a low quality website that shows he doesn't know what he's doing: http://www.businessfundingexpress.com/ ... yeah it looks spammy as phuk)

If you are tired of dog **** leads, go to this case study that shows you how to get the FRESHEST leads in the business: https://lp.lendnet.io/1-landing-page21860509

There is literally "landing page" in the URL of your link.

Your attention to detail is spot on and the digital campaigns you run must be immaculate.