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    Quote Originally Posted by abfunders View Post
    Adding to the conversation here, not taking sides. Funders don't want to fund frausters. Got the following rejection from CDG:

    We appreciate the chance to review the file. We would not be able to get comfortable to make an offer as there has been an increase in overdrafts over the last two months. The client was also involved in a Mortgage Scheme a while back and pleaded guilty for his role in it. Tough to get comfortable with this on top of the client being in the construction industry.

    Then attached the image of of the charge of a conspiracy to commit wire fraud....
    Did you run any checks on the owner before submitting?
    Kevin Henry
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    Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
    561-850-9346
    Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
    1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
    Boynton Beach, FL 33426

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Henry-Seacoast View Post
    Did you run any checks on the owner before submitting?
    The underwriters at the funders are willing to do it for me, why should I run it be CLEAR first? I do sometimes Google a client first if things seem sketchy, but I'm a broker. I obviously don't want to submit files that have this type of hair on them, but you get surprises all the time. Everest stopped doing background checks until after contracts, so they have been killing deals last minute, so I don't think it's beyond "standard" to submit before doing my own background checks. Especially if I'm getting calls from funders every day asking me for more submissions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abfunders View Post
    The underwriters at the funders are willing to do it for me, why should I run it be CLEAR first? I do sometimes Google a client first if things seem sketchy, but I'm a broker. I obviously don't want to submit files that have this type of hair on them, but you get surprises all the time. Everest stopped doing background checks until after contracts, so they have been killing deals last minute, so I don't think it's beyond "standard" to submit before doing my own background checks. Especially if I'm getting calls from funders every day asking me for more submissions.
    Keep submitting files with owners with subject backgrounds to real institutions and see how responses to deal flow slows of you get cut off completely.
    Kevin Henry
    VP-Business Development
    Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
    561-850-9346
    Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
    1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
    Boynton Beach, FL 33426

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Henry-Seacoast View Post
    Keep submitting files with owners with subject backgrounds to real institutions and see how responses to deal flow slows of you get cut off completely.
    It is very easy to tell when you have a good broker Vs. a bad one.

    Good brokers still come across and submit bad deals with "hair" on them. The difference is a lot of times the good brokers are just as surprised as the funders when the issues are uncovered in the final. These types of deals are less frequent from them, and they are mostly not interested in brokering such deals. Once they find out the dirt that file goes to the trash bin.

    Bad brokers usually know about the dirt on the final, and they usually just shop the deal from one place to the next until it gets funded. There are a handful of ISOs that I have here I expect their deals to have dirt on them. Once I kill it, they move on to the next sucker

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