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04-18-2017, 01:27 PM #1
Consolidate 5 advances
On deck payoff 13,500
Max payoff 14000
3rd Advance FUnd payoff 14000
Lendini payoff 25000
5th fund payoff 10000
They do around 83K monthly.
Medical services.
Any takers for consolidation
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04-18-2017, 01:39 PM #2
76,500 in balances? Does $83,000 a month? How are they staying in business?
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04-18-2017, 01:47 PM #3
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04-18-2017, 01:58 PM #4
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04-18-2017, 02:05 PM #5jotucker1983Guest
- The merchant is a typical UCC lead, which means he was found in the UCC system, which explains why he has 4 positions stacked on top of On Deck.
- They do $83,000 gross monthly but their outstanding balances are at $76,500. What are the total daily payment amounts on all 5 positions?
- If I'm going to guess, the merchant is probably using at least 40% of his gross sales to payback the 5 positions. I bet he probably has NSFs/Overdrafts all over the place.
Stop wasting your time on this deal. Tell the merchant to stop taking out funding on top of funding (because if anybody is foolish enough to consolidate this, the merchant will stack again) and to pay off these damn advances normally (if he even survives that long). From there, you can see what you can do for him down the line.
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04-18-2017, 02:10 PM #6
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If they net around $150K a year (I doubt it) you may be able to get them into Dan Page's program. If they're willing to lose a home they own, maybe WBL. Other than that this seems pretty tough.
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04-18-2017, 04:09 PM #7
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Thanks for the mention. While I do a lot of consolidations, I agree this one seems like a challenge from what I see.
In reference to another email string here on the forum...we have seen a noticeable increase in late delinquencies/defaults. While we are absolutely still doing consolidations, we are peering very far into financials and business strength and applying more controls than in the past. We can help clients that used cash advances to address a short term problem/opportunity and want out from under the yoke of the dailies. But I cannot help clients who have gotten themselves in way over their heads and continue to make bad financial decisions. :-(
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04-18-2017, 02:30 PM #8
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04-18-2017, 02:32 PM #9
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Kevin Henry
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04-18-2017, 02:33 PM #10John Celifarco
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Horizon Funding Group
3423 Ave S
Brooklyn, NY 11234
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04-18-2017, 02:41 PM #11
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Just found a picture of the merchant:
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04-18-2017, 02:42 PM #12
we all laugh about a scenario like this, but it is actually very troubling. It is nonsense like this, complete lack of fiduciary responsibility, that is going to get our industry pinched
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04-18-2017, 02:44 PM #13
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04-18-2017, 02:58 PM #16
Actually the merchant does NOT have any nsfs and the ALB is around 15k. So they may deposit a little more will have to go back and look closer.
They are surviving. Sure it was foolishness on both sides to get all the advances. Just 1 in many deals in the pipeline working on a solution for the merchant.
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04-18-2017, 03:38 PM #17jotucker1983Guest
Are you sure? No NSFs, Overdrafts, or Negative Days?
Barely.
This is not a "deal". There is no solution other than to tell the merchant to sit down, pay off the 5 advances, try to survive, and you'll reconnect with him in October to see what their current status is.
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04-18-2017, 03:13 PM #18
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Worst stacking I've seen, the merchant had 9 positions, $600K in advances.
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04-18-2017, 03:15 PM #19
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Kevin Henry
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Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
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1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
Boynton Beach, FL 33426
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04-18-2017, 03:25 PM #20
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04-18-2017, 03:29 PM #21Eagle Funding Group
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04-18-2017, 03:39 PM #22
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04-18-2017, 03:41 PM #23
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Hell...I saw it three times from three different brokers. I told the last broker that nobody is going to be able to help him. The broker thought she was going to be able to get it done and stop the stacking nonsense because the owner would listen to her. That's when milks came out of my nose.....
Kevin Henry
VP-Business Development
Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
561-850-9346
Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
Boynton Beach, FL 33426
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04-18-2017, 07:09 PM #24Zachary Ramirez – CEO
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Anaheim CA 92801
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