[anonymous]

You can't ignore the debt traps because that is the battle everyone in any "high cost" space needs to defend. If you read any of my entries, there is at least one point that is constant: taking Yellowstone or any other expensive product ONCE is not, nor will it ever be, a "problem" -- they can support a fantastic segment of the market that way. It's the part of the argument you are looking to ignore that is going to create the problem for them and many others.

I'm not looking to ignore it in the least bit, just don't think you'll get the answers you're looking for out of this thread. And if you didn't (with the time and effort put into the posts/examples), I don't think I'm getting anywhere. So rather ravaging the same topic to no avail, thought it might be a good idea to highlight a couple other points. I DO NOT disagree with you at all Carl.

...in fact, I reached out to do business with you about a month or so back after following your posts for a while. Never heard anything back. ....dick lol

[Cfairbank]

I'm not looking to ignore it in the least bit, just don't think you'll get the answers you're looking for out of this thread. And if you didn't (with the time and effort put into the posts/examples), I don't think I'm getting anywhere. So rather ravaging the same topic to no avail, thought it might be a good idea to highlight a couple other points. I DO NOT disagree with you at all Carl.

...in fact, I reached out to do business with you about a month or so back after following your posts for a while. Never heard anything back. ....dick lol

Fair enough... my fault, I misunderstood you intention and do appreciate and understand your points. In general, all I'm asking for is for folks to clean up their products, do sufficient underwriting and math to ensure the product is not likely to destroy a business, and try to offer the best product they can. It benefits everyone in the space, not just the lender/cash advance company that cleans up their product.

To your second point, that would be very bizarre if you didn't get a response from us, my sales guys are very responsive. ssafirstein@breakoutfinance.com heads up the group. direct dial 703-852-6013. My sincerest apologies, I will see what happened.