[LeadForensicsGuy]

$5 /click considered overpaying on keywords?

Buddy.. today's CPC are $20+ on common industry keywords

Mikhail I don't mean any disrespect when i say this but. I hate to break the news to you but if you are paying $20 per keyword then you need to fire your SEO person. Or maybe hire one. its 2017

There are so many different methods to get reasonable good quality traffic. If you are open minded and creative. Yes if you are gong for the "big boy" keywords on Google like "Working Capital Loan". etc etc, yes those are very expensive however I guess because I am in this industry and I see it all. I take it for granted that this information isn't common knowledge.

Saying that you have to pay $20 per keyword is like saying the only way you can get money for you business is to have a 700 credit score and have 2 years of working capital.. Yes that is correct however you and I know that in the alternative finance space clients can get working capital loans cash advances, equipment leasing, factoring, book of business financing, 401K loans. etc etc etc..

you catch my drift. ?

Check out some of these articles to find low cost keywords you're welcome.


Negative Keywords :
https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/2453972?hl=en

https://www.techwyse.com/blog/pay-pe...hould-include/

Alternative traffic from Google

https://advertise.bingads.microsoft....ertising-costs

http://www.bloggingcage.com/how-am-i...-facebook-ads/

I have to say I don't Indore any of these websites if they try to sell you something I just copied and pasted some resources our CSM have.

Also do your own research google negative keywords and high quality cheap traffic, or penny clicks on Facebook..

[Funder Mark]

its 2017

I didn't know its 2017, why didn't anyone tell me? And you are saying people should come to you for help?

[LeadForensicsGuy]

I didn't know its 2017, why didn't anyone tell me? And you are saying people should come to you for help?

Good one Mark. Yeah sorry about that I miss typed or spoke.. Now! I can respect this type of sarchasm and criticism. its warranted. I did make a mistake
but the comments about me and my character because of pure ignorance or naivete.

But good one tho. I think I am going to leave the mistake up. its to funny now. i can't go back and change it. i mean that is why we have an edit button for when
we make mistakes. LOL!!!

[jotucker1983]

Mikhail I don't mean any disrespect when i say this but. I hate to break the news to you but if you are paying $20 per keyword then you need to fire your SEO person. Or maybe hire one. its 2017

Well, it's 2016 actually and search engine related marketing via "keywords" is very expensive today my friend. It's very difficult for any small shop to compete in that arena, most of the people competing in that arena are indeed the larger direct funders/lenders, or larger broker shops who have the higher marketing budgets to operate there.

[LeadForensicsGuy]

Well, it's 2016 actually and search engine related marketing via "keywords" is very expensive today my friend. It's very difficult for any small shop to compete in that arena, most of the people competing in that arena are indeed the larger direct funders/lenders, or larger broker shops who have the higher marketing budgets to operate there.

Your right John. I did say 2017 . Forgive me.,,typing to fast.... trying to get my point across and follow up with clients at the same time. .

I agree with you 100% that it can be very competitive in this industry I think that's why guys like yourself. love
our software and service. because any client that you have the chance to get you should really treat it like Gold. and if you don't close it the guy next door would.

John because a lot of us are online its difficult for people to conceptualize buying behavior. Just because someone isn't physically in your presence doesn't change the psychology of a shopper.
if our websites were physical stores in a mall. and someone came into your store and looked around at your products, in this case. material for cash advance or alternative financing.
and stayed in your store for more than 60 seconds. I would hope you would stand up and ask that shopper. "how may i help you" or "is there anything I can help you with". Why because
right next door is another person offering the exact same thing that you offer. My Fiancee will go into a store and wait to see if a sales person comes up to us and ask us if we need anything
she has literally made me put down what I wanted to buy and go to another store just because she felt like the person was not helpful or rude.

Se what we do is tell you the exact business name and contact details of the business that visit your website even if they don't reach our, fill out a form, opt in, or inquire. and so
once you know have that information you know they were interested and you can see the exact page and product they were looking at and for how long.

[jotucker1983]

Your right John. I did say 2017 . Forgive me.,,typing to fast.... trying to get my point across and follow up with clients at the same time. .

I understand that, but while you are discussing "search engine optimization", understand that this website comes up pretty high in those results. As a result, if you are trying to pitch any product or service, you should try to present yourself in as much of a professional manner as possible.

Unfortunately, your sentence, grammar, and punctuation are all over the place my friend. I honestly wouldn't take anybody serious who pitches anything to me with their sentences structured like that. It was very difficult to even read through your original post.

[LeadForensicsGuy]

I understand that, but while you are discussing "search engine optimization", understand that this website comes up pretty high in those results. As a result, if you are trying to pitch any product or service, you should try to present yourself in as much of a professional manner as possible.

Unfortunately, your sentence, grammar, and punctuation are all over the place my friend. I honestly wouldn't take anybody serious who pitches anything to me with their sentences structured like that. It was very difficult to even read through your original post.

Thanks for the advice John. You are right. I was typing my post as a social media post rather than a pitch, or proposal. I will go back and edit it. I guess that's the confusing part John.
I wasn't pitching in this post. I was sharing an experience and sharing some positivity but you are correct .

I can completely respect and understand that someone
wouldn't want to do business with my company because of something I acutely did such as talk in a common way. I understand. that. I just don't understand the slander and insults.

I understand Misery loves company. and i guess when someone is miserable they just want to share that

Thanks again for the advice. I am gong to go back over my post.

[jotucker1983]

I just don't understand the slander and insults. I understand Misery loves company. and i guess when someone is miserable they just want to share that

Well, buddy, I will give you a couple of notes:

- This is the internet and participating on discussion forums is pretty much hit or miss. Some forums are going to be good for you, some are not.

- Just make sure that when you are participating on any forum for commercial reasons, you make sure to always represent yourself and your company as professional as possible, despite what "other people" are doing. That includes making sure your sentence structures are great as I mentioned prior. This is because prospective clients and partners can find your posts through search engines.

- With that being said, you probably won't be received well here. Going back and forth "arguing" every point/detail is just a waste of your time. If people don't like you, forget it, at the end of the day it's not like anybody on this forum is putting (or taking) money out of your pocket. So go contribute to another forum that's more receptive of you and what you have to say.

[LeadForensicsGuy]

Well, buddy, I will give you a couple of notes:

- This is the internet and participating on discussion forums is pretty much hit or miss. Some forums are going to be good for you, some are not.

- Just make sure that when you are participating on any forum for commercial reasons, you make sure to always represent yourself and your company as professional as possible, despite what "other people" are doing. That includes making sure your sentence structures are great as I mentioned prior. This is because prospective clients and partners can find your posts through search engines.

- With that being said, you probably won't be received well here. Going back and forth "arguing" every point/detail is just a waste of your time. If people don't like you, forget it, at the end of the day it's not like anybody on this forum is putting (or taking) money out of your pocket. So go contribute to another forum that's more receptive of you and what you have to say.

Again. Great Advice. Thanks.