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    wow, there are so many things wrong with this I dont know where to start.. I dont know what is more pathetic for a company to do steal a deal and profit off of someone else's work, or the fact that a they thought it was worth doing it on a $5900 deal. Joke
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Celifarco View Post
    wow, there are so many things wrong with this I dont know where to start.. I dont know what is more pathetic for a company to do steal a deal and profit off of someone else's work, or the fact that a they thought it was worth doing it on a $5900 deal. Joke
    Very true, especially given that situations like this go public within minutes of being discovered. As a funder you can do right by an ISO 10K times, but if they even susect that you did something under-handed then you're done. And in truth, there is very few ways to come back from that.

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    Submitted many deals to Empire to get NO RESPONSE back. No confirmation. No nothing but the finger. I'd stay away. I got only a handful of lenders I work with and I can count them on 1 hand. Based on existing relationships and taking a chance. I would recommend Wall Street Funding for your riskier deals. They are good with communication and confirmation. Mark is professional and even though files often get declined, at least it's done so within a few hours of submission.

    Sending your deal to Empire, you might as well through your deal into a fire never to be seen or heard from again. They talk a big game on LinkedIn. "I fund any deal" "I fund same day" "Send me all your dead files" etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElitheMoneyGuy View Post
    Submitted many deals to Empire to get NO RESPONSE back. No confirmation. No nothing but the finger. I'd stay away. I got only a handful of lenders I work with and I can count them on 1 hand. Based on existing relationships and taking a chance. I would recommend Wall Street Funding for your riskier deals. They are good with communication and confirmation. Mark is professional and even though files often get declined, at least it's done so within a few hours of submission.

    Sending your deal to Empire, you might as well through your deal into a fire never to be seen or heard from again. They talk a big game on LinkedIn. "I fund any deal" "I fund same day" "Send me all your dead files" etc.
    I would have stopped submitting after the first one with no response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Celifarco View Post
    wow, there are so many things wrong with this I dont know where to start.. I dont know what is more pathetic for a company to do steal a deal and profit off of someone else's work, or the fact that a they thought it was worth doing it on a $5900 deal. Joke
    Why would you instantly believe the story? Maybe Empire got it from another ISO? Hard to believe they would steal a $6k deal.
    High risk paper

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    [QUOTE=MidnightAdvance;96100]Why would you instantly believe the story? Maybe Empire got it from another ISO? Hard to believe they would steal a $6k deal.[/QUO

    Nothing surprises me in this industry anymore.. You can only trust the people that you have a proven track record with, everyone else will try to screw you
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightAdvance View Post
    Why would you instantly believe the story? Maybe Empire got it from another ISO? Hard to believe they would steal a $6k deal.
    pretty clever way to hurt your competition by bringing up a 2 year old thread .



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