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    ALL TIME RECORD 12 Positions!!! WTF

    This definitely breaks the record, merchant with 12 Positions paying combined 27,000/day in ACH debits. WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexSMF View Post
    This definitely breaks the record, merchant with 12 Positions paying combined 27,000/day in ACH debits. WTF?
    Is he looking for a 13th or is he just showing off HA

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    Send that to senator what's-his-name and his pals over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexSMF View Post
    This definitely breaks the record, merchant with 12 Positions paying combined 27,000/day in ACH debits. WTF?
    what is the monthly gross? How does this even happen?
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    Who is in on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexSMF View Post
    This definitely breaks the record, merchant with 12 Positions paying combined 27,000/day in ACH debits. WTF?
    can you list the 12 in the order you see it

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    ALL TIME RECORD 12 Positions!!! WTF

    This scenario would really help the state of Illinois expedite things

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Celifarco View Post
    what is the monthly gross? How does this even happen?
    Business grosses 4 million per month. Almost every shop in this space has seen this file. Unreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funder Mark View Post
    Who is in on it?
    Every C-F Funder you can imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael I View Post
    can you list the 12 in the order you see it
    Lol I would prefer not to do that, simply to not give away the name of the company or to create issues between funding shops. I think I already gave enough info for the shops that know this file to know who this is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUNd View Post
    Send that to senator what's-his-name and his pals over there.
    You really dont think they are reading all these threads on here? ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by VFG View Post
    This scenario would really help the state of Illinois expedite things
    Yeah this is insane, but at 12 positions, it's obvious this merchant knows what he is getting himself into. Standards are necessary for transparency and disclosure, but making something illegal because you don't like it is not the answer. At some point the merchant ought to show some responsibility as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexSMF View Post
    Business grosses 4 million per month. Almost every shop in this space has seen this file. Unreal.
    Ok I will probably get shot here for saying it . But what is the big deal he is still under 15% of gross that nearly every lender is willing to take up to .
    Is there a big difference between getting it all from one ,two lender or getting it from 12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael I View Post
    Ok I will probably get shot here for saying it . But what is the big deal he is still under 15% of gross that nearly every lender is willing to take up to .
    Is there a big difference between getting it all from one ,two lender or getting it from 12
    While that is a point to make I would wonder why the merchant did not just take it from one lender, or re-up from one of the original funding sources as opposed to taking another position

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael I View Post
    Ok I will probably get shot here for saying it . But what is the big deal he is still under 15% of gross that nearly every lender is willing to take up to .
    Is there a big difference between getting it all from one ,two lender or getting it from 12
    It's an interesting point your raising, but the only thing I'd care to know is how the merchant is handling those 12 payments? If he's managing his cash flow well and it looks like he could support another position, then I get what you're saying about getting funded from 12 "investors" instead of 1.
    But if the merchant is driving down "bounce-city", then it never matters how much money he's making on a monthly basis

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrh1lp View Post
    While that is a point to make I would wonder why the merchant did not just take it from one lender, or re-up from one of the original funding sources as opposed to taking another position
    I would imagine because nobody wanted to renew him.

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    this is like the 5th times someone has posted a thread like this.

    indeed 12 is the record, if its all on one legal entity.
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    ALL TIME RECORD 12 Positions!!! WTF

    It's the flower deal Bahahahahha.

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    ALL TIME RECORD 12 Positions!!! WTF

    It's still just 14% of gross

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael I View Post
    Ok I will probably get shot here for saying it . But what is the big deal he is still under 15% of gross that nearly every lender is willing to take up to .
    Is there a big difference between getting it all from one ,two lender or getting it from 12
    Yes but the fact that a company doing 50,000,000/year is willing to take such expensive money is scary. There is a good reason why they are doing it, and logically their explanations make sense, it is still scary however.

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    If its a Pharmacy in Tennessee I know the deal. If its not then I would say you don't have an official record. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by The****zuofMCA View Post
    If its a Pharmacy in Tennessee I know the deal. If its not then I would say you don't have an official record. lol
    that guy cleaned up his act i thought?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADiamond View Post
    that guy cleaned up his act i thought?
    Took a 2 million consolidation bud and was back at it in 4 months stacking. Ouch

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