[funding pro]

This is one of the most inaccurate things I have ever read on this site. CAN has had record months for the last 4-5 months, but if call $150,000,000+/month in funding 'desperation mode' I would like to see how you categorize everyone else in the industry.

Secondly - I would consider profits a pretty important measuring tool when your comparing companies.

If ODC is beating them in everything except profits, that means ODC is losing

Not disagreeing with that. I guess my main point was that this industry was CAN's for the taking and they whiffed big time and let other players "catch up" and ODC pass them by, specifically from a market share perspective. If you work with them on a daily basis funding large volume, than you have felt the effects of the middle manager changes I mentioned.