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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Buchanan View Post
    The cons of bying from a reseller/broker. That's not the case with our data.

    Wouldn't doubt it for a second Rob, but if you sell me leads today and 3 years down the road I give them to a trainee you cant guarantee that the companies are still going to be in business. We have bought every single UCC possible since the inception of our company, I have my vets take care of the older UCCs, there is gold mines there but you need to have the proper mindset of knowing there is a decent chance half of these companies changed numbers because 1000 brokers called them a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenTCFunding View Post
    Wouldn't doubt it for a second Rob, but if you sell me leads today and 3 years down the road I give them to a trainee you cant guarantee that the companies are still going to be in business. We have bought every single UCC possible since the inception of our company, I have my vets take care of the older UCCs, there is gold mines there but you need to have the proper mindset of knowing there is a decent chance half of these companies changed numbers because 1000 brokers called them a day.
    Calling data that is truly 3 years old as in pulled 3 years ago is a waste of time in my opinion. I’d say that about anything over a year old. There would be more disconnects and wrong numbers than people you can actually talk to. If you have old data that you call you should consider having it updated and purged of out of business records. This is a service we provide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Buchanan View Post
    Calling data that is truly 3 years old as in pulled 3 years ago is a waste of time in my opinion.
    well that is only your bia$ed opinion.

    My guys are calling UCC's as far back as 2009 and getting deals out of them.

    In this industry, MCA is like crack to a lot of merchants. They have been doing it over and over again since day one. Yes you will get some disconnects but everyone is calling the one year old UCC so even if the guy wants money he is so ticked off at all the calls that he won't even talk to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridextreme View Post
    well that is only your bia$ed opinion.

    My guys are calling UCC's as far back as 2009 and getting deals out of them.

    In this industry, MCA is like crack to a lot of merchants. They have been doing it over and over again since day one. Yes you will get some disconnects but everyone is calling the one year old UCC so even if the guy wants money he is so ticked off at all the calls that he won't even talk to you.
    Couldn't have said it better myself, and there is nothing more satisfying than speaking to a merchant who knows the product reasonably well, but also isn't about to cuss you out for being the 37th call that day asking, "I see you've taken money before, let me get you more of it!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyYSCISOdept View Post
    Couldn't have said it better myself, and there is nothing more satisfying than speaking to a merchant who knows the product reasonably well, but also isn't about to cuss you out for being the 37th call that day asking, "I see you've taken money before, let me get you more of it!"
    That's why you pull a targeted list with older filing dates yet the debtor info is still current and up to date. So not only are you calling a list with current up to date info on the merechant you are also not the "37th call" of the day. However within the past year ot so I don't have shops pulling that kind of data. They all want the newest filing dates they can get their hands on. Prior to that I used to see people pulling lists with filing dates dating back 2 years or so.
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