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    Manage Your Clients

    Depending on the set of data you are using, it might take an excellent app chaser 50-75 outbound calls to get an app. It might take an average chaser 150 calls. It might take a poor chaser 400 or more calls. I've seen a guy who averages 3 applications every day with about 80-100 outbound calls (guy is a BEAST). Often times this relentless prospecting can consume your entire day.

    Even after you get the application, there's plenty of work to be done. The client needs to get approved, accept their approval, and sign contract documents. At each stage of this process a certain percentage of applicants will fall out; this is what we refer to as a sales funnel.

    Without referencing my KPI's, here's some random numbers to look at:

    200 calls = 1 app
    10 apps = 6 approvals
    6 approvals = 3 fundings


    Using these metrics you can, to some extent, assume that it will take approximately 666.66 calls per funded deal. Assuming an average call volume of 150 per day, you could fund a deal roughly once per four or five days.

    The point I am making is that it is a lot of work to find a funded deal. In fact, prospecting is usually the most time-consuming part of what we do. It takes a long time to find enough funded deals to build a significant residual portfolio.

    Most reps, after funding a deal, don't reach out to their merchant ever again... Until it's time to renew. By the time you call them back, they have stacked your loan three times and have two offers currently on the table. They've forgotten who you are, and are just looking for another money-peddler to give them a 4-month 1.45.

    It is incredibly important to maintain constant communication with your funded clients. It is much easier, and less time consuming, to retain an existing customer, than it is to make another 666.66 calls and find a new one.

    Long story short... stay in front of your people and make sure when they buy again, they buy from YOU.
    Zachary Ramirez – CEO
    Phone: 562-391-7099
    Email: zach@zacharyjosephramirez.com

    1661 N. Raymond Ave #265
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    TIP #10

    Manage Your Clients

    Depending on the set of data you are using, it might take an excellent app chaser 50-75 outbound calls to get an app. It might take an average chaser 150 calls. It might take a poor chaser 400 or more calls. I've seen a guy who averages 3 applications every day with about 80-100 outbound calls (guy is a BEAST). Often times this relentless prospecting can consume your entire day.

    Even after you get the application, there's plenty of work to be done. The client needs to get approved, accept their approval, and sign contract documents. At each stage of this process a certain percentage of applicants will fall out; this is what we refer to as a sales funnel.

    Without referencing my KPI's, here's some random numbers to look at:

    200 calls = 1 app
    10 apps = 6 approvals
    6 approvals = 3 fundings


    Using these metrics you can, to some extent, assume that it will take approximately 666.66 calls per funded deal. Assuming an average call volume of 150 per day, you could fund a deal roughly once per four or five days.

    The point I am making is that it is a lot of work to find a funded deal. In fact, prospecting is usually the most time-consuming part of what we do. It takes a long time to find enough funded deals to build a significant residual portfolio.

    Most reps, after funding a deal, don't reach out to their merchant ever again... Until it's time to renew. By the time you call them back, they have stacked your loan three times and have two offers currently on the table. They've forgotten who you are, and are just looking for another money-peddler to give them a 4-month 1.45.

    It is incredibly important to maintain constant communication with your funded clients. It is much easier, and less time consuming, to retain an existing customer, than it is to make another 666.66 calls and find a new one.

    Long story short... stay in front of your people and make sure when they buy again, they buy from YOU.
    Nice post Zach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    TIP #10

    Manage Your Clients

    Depending on the set of data you are using, it might take an excellent app chaser 50-75 outbound calls to get an app. It might take an average chaser 150 calls. It might take a poor chaser 400 or more calls. I've seen a guy who averages 3 applications every day with about 80-100 outbound calls (guy is a BEAST). Often times this relentless prospecting can consume your entire day.

    Even after you get the application, there's plenty of work to be done. The client needs to get approved, accept their approval, and sign contract documents. At each stage of this process a certain percentage of applicants will fall out; this is what we refer to as a sales funnel.

    Without referencing my KPI's, here's some random numbers to look at:

    200 calls = 1 app
    10 apps = 6 approvals
    6 approvals = 3 fundings


    Using these metrics you can, to some extent, assume that it will take approximately 666.66 calls per funded deal. Assuming an average call volume of 150 per day, you could fund a deal roughly once per four or five days.

    The point I am making is that it is a lot of work to find a funded deal. In fact, prospecting is usually the most time-consuming part of what we do. It takes a long time to find enough funded deals to build a significant residual portfolio.

    Most reps, after funding a deal, don't reach out to their merchant ever again... Until it's time to renew. By the time you call them back, they have stacked your loan three times and have two offers currently on the table. They've forgotten who you are, and are just looking for another money-peddler to give them a 4-month 1.45.

    It is incredibly important to maintain constant communication with your funded clients. It is much easier, and less time consuming, to retain an existing customer, than it is to make another 666.66 calls and find a new one.

    Long story short... stay in front of your people and make sure when they buy again, they buy from YOU.
    Where did these numbers/estimates come from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefundingdiaries View Post
    Where did these numbers/estimates come from?
    Zach has excellent points and seems to be the most helpful though..
    I also question are these inhouse numbers? "Using these metrics you can, to some extent, assume that it will take approximately 666.66 calls per funded deal. Assuming an average call volume of 150 per day, you could fund a deal roughly once per four or five days."
    I use to do 500+ calls a day but that was right out of high school selling long distance 20 years ago.

    With the right marketing and connections you dont have to make any calls, they call you. Lots of deals we close without even talking with the merchant.


    Though I do see this as a need for the big shops with UCC leads, you have to hammer at those to make a return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefundingdiaries View Post
    Where did these numbers/estimates come from?
    Top of my head. It's not meant to be an accurate depiction of anything.
    Zachary Ramirez – CEO
    Phone: 562-391-7099
    Email: zach@zacharyjosephramirez.com

    1661 N. Raymond Ave #265
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    I love this diatribe. I have to get to merchants getting 20 calls a day from boiler room felons that truly have no idea of what this market is. They are already hanging up on creditors and fast talking sales people who do not explain properly what the industry is (a pay day advance for businesses). I send my clients a bottle of wine and a thank you card, a birthday card and if I am trying to get into their pants; a shoe with the note that I am trying to get my foot in the door.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by john galt View Post
    i love this diatribe. I have to get to merchants getting 20 calls a day from boiler room felons that truly have no idea of what this market is. They are already hanging up on creditors and fast talking sales people who do not explain properly what the industry is (a pay day advance for businesses). I send my clients a bottle of wine and a thank you card, a birthday card and if i am trying to get into their pants; a shoe with the note that i am trying to get my foot in the door.....
    lmfao, "boiler room felons"... you crack me up dude. You think a bottle of wine or a shoe with a 'trying to get my foot in the door' approach is clever? It's about the most cliche **** I've ever heard. Why does everyone have such an ego? News flash: Millions of people can do what you do. You're not special.

    Hard work, dedication, and some luck is what you need.
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    PS: I don't work hard, I work smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    PS: I don't work hard, I work smart.
    BTW, this one broke my cliche meter. You owe me $29.95.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Did you say clit meter? I might have missed it since I am so old.....
    This was a bit of fun. I like you John. Goodnight sir.

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    and damn.. I just saw the "too" spellcheck mistakes.

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