[abfunders]

This is interesting....

https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/17/2...iptions-cancel

​I personally know people who came into the industry, got their Adobe subscription, left​ the industry, and were stuck holding the bill​ without realizing it. Since even before the 2000s, I never ​s​tayed away from Adobe Acrobat, they were known to have the biggest security leaks and major RAM hogs (on my ​16mb of RAM in Win95). ​T​hings are obviously better now, but I have been using GIMP for image manipulation and I purchased in the one-tim​e FoxIt​PDF license (2 times, once for v10, ​recently one for v13), and I use SignNow for my eSign platform​, paid yearly. (DocuSign is way overpriced IMHO.)

[diditevenfund]

Funny I actually was trying like hell to cancel my Adobe last month and found it literally impossible to the point I just changed the CC with the bank

[abfunders]

Funny I actually was trying like hell to cancel my Adobe last month and found it literally impossible to the point I just changed the CC with the bank

Hopefully you won't get a collections letter now that the feds are on them. I also hope that you get a compensation.

[diditevenfund]

Hopefully you won't get a collections letter now that the feds are on them. I also hope that you get a compensation.

Yeah it was weird, literally ZERO place to cancel, no where to get in touch etc. Not shocked to see this now ha

[Olderguy]

I don't understand the issue here...go into your account, go to manage plan, and click on end your service. What am I missing? It's an annual plan with monthly payments. You are obligated for the annual term even if you cancel.

[JasonBishop]

Tell em old timer. Pay your obligations.

[Olderguy]

Tell em old timer. Pay your obligations.

They flunked 6th grade.

[diditevenfund]

I don't understand the issue here...go into your account, go to manage plan, and click on end your service. What am I missing? It's an annual plan with monthly payments. You are obligated for the annual term even if you cancel.

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[diditevenfund]

They flunked 6th grade.

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[abfunders]

I don't understand the issue here...go into your account, go to manage plan, and click on end your service. What am I missing? It's an annual plan with monthly payments. You are obligated for the annual term even if you cancel.

I am busy, so I'll let ChatGPT explain it. (Sorry it's long, AI did a thorough job)

In the United States, liberals generally do not support a fully free market. Instead, they advocate for a mixed economy where the market operates with significant government regulation and intervention to address market failures, protect consumers, ensure fair competition, and provide public goods and social welfare.

The lawsuit by the Justice Department against the company making it difficult and misleading for customers to cancel their yearly subscription is entirely compatible with the liberal mindset for several reasons:

- Consumer Protection: Liberals generally support strong consumer protection laws. They believe that companies should be transparent and honest in their dealings with customers. When a company employs deceptive practices to make it difficult for customers to cancel a subscription, it violates these principles. The government's intervention ensures that consumers are not being unfairly exploited or misled, aligning with the liberal emphasis on protecting individuals from corporate abuses.

- Regulation to Ensure Fairness: Liberals advocate for regulations that ensure fair business practices. The lawsuit can be seen as a necessary regulatory action to maintain fair market practices. By holding companies accountable for deceptive practices, the government helps maintain a level playing field, which is a core tenet of liberal economic thought.

- Preventing Market Failures: Deceptive practices can lead to market failures where consumers cannot make informed choices. Liberals believe that government intervention is justified to correct such failures. Ensuring that customers can easily understand and cancel subscriptions helps the market function more efficiently, with companies competing on the merits of their products and services rather than on their ability to trap customers in unwanted agreements.

- Support for Rule of Law: Liberals generally uphold the rule of law and believe that laws and regulations should be enforced to protect public interests. If a company is violating consumer protection laws, it is appropriate for the government to take legal action to enforce these laws. This upholds the integrity of the legal system and ensures that companies are held accountable for their actions.

- Empowerment of Individuals: Making it difficult to cancel subscriptions disempowers consumers, forcing them to stay in contracts against their will. The liberal perspective values empowering individuals to make their own choices. Government action to rectify deceptive practices restores consumers' autonomy, allowing them to make free and informed decisions.

In summary, the Justice Department's lawsuit against a company for making it difficult and misleading to cancel subscriptions aligns with the liberal mindset because it focuses on protecting consumers, ensuring fair business practices, correcting market failures, enforcing the rule of law, and empowering individuals. These are all key principles that liberals generally support.

[Olderguy]

substitute liberal for modern and progressive.
We have the rich and the poor.
There's no middle class thanks to capitalism.

[abfunders]

We have the rich and poor thanks to capitalism.
However, thanks to capitalism, even the standard poor person is richer than the rich people from 200 years ago.
You're just upset that some people are "more" successful. That's sour grapes. What you're concerned about is manipulating the system, Steve Galloway said it well, and really makes you think:
"If it's capitalism on the way up and socialism on the way down, that's not capitalism or socialism, that's crony-ism!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H8AshEYrKw

[abfunders]

Oh, and according to your own monacre, "modern" is not always better than "older"
So in conclusion, you should very well understand why Adobe is being sued.