[sweetleadz]

What are your thoughts on this ???

[sweetleadz]

Very sad day for America

[simonwein12]

They basically just handed him the election

[abfunders]

"I’m a very innocent man"
Only people who are very innocent talk like that.
Can we get a republican to replace him? Pretty please? Anyone can beat Biden. Trump is probably the only one who possibly couldn't beat him.

[Olderguy]

Nope...bet he will get a suspended sentence...so then no jail time. I can't see them jail a former president.

[ridextreme]

What are your thoughts on this ???

Can you actually and most important intelligently explain how "Trump is done"?

I bet you couldn't even explain what laws he broke.

Don't worry, it's ok. Just keep your head burried deep in the sand.

[NotALoan]

Can you actually and most important intelligently explain how "Trump is done"?

I bet you couldn't even explain what laws he broke.

Don't worry, it's ok. Just keep your head burried deep in the sand.

Trump is accused of 34 counts of fraud under Article 175 of the New York Penal Law. He was found guilty of all 34 counts. It's not that complex.

[sweetleadz]

Trump is accused of 34 counts of fraud under Article 175 of the New York Penal Law. He was found guilty of all 34 counts. It's not that complex.

Thank you !!!!

[SendDocsPlox]

Unless he paid Stormy on RTR from future receivables stfu and put this on Off Topic

Mods, asleep at the wheel come on

[JonathanHendrix]

What a sick cruel world this place can be sometimes.

My T-rex counterpart "SendDocsPlox" is absolutely correct.

[diditevenfund]

Unless he paid Stormy on RTR from future receivables stfu and put this on Off Topic

Mods, asleep at the wheel come on

lmao

[kpeng]

Unless The Donald needs an MCA, not sure why this is on here.

[abfunders]

Unless The Donald needs an MCA, not sure why this is on here.

Ken, we discussed giving him an MCA here, the offers weren't so great https://dailyfunder.com/showthread.p...Trump-amp-Debt

[Top G]

He's still the man. Make America Great Again, Again. #LetsGoBrandon

[Lmonus]

Unless he paid Stormy on RTR from future receivables stfu and put this on Off Topic

Mods, asleep at the wheel come on

Theres no mods on this forum unfortunately - Had there been some, there might be more integrity on this platform...
Prevent the newbies from posting until their accounts are aged 3-4 months and give Mod status to the accounts that have been here for 10+ years... problem solved.

[Lmonus]

What are your thoughts on this ???

I dont think hes going to lose any votes over this.

[abfunders]

I dont think hes going to lose any votes over this.

I agree with Lior. He's just going to use this to brand himself better as a victim of a conspiracy. Interestingly enough, Trump was literally just convicted for orchestrating a conspiracy. He loves America, or does he hate it?

He was already presumed innocent by the right-wing, and "where's the crime?" by the non-lawyers, and if the other non-lawyers can't describe it, then clearly no crime was committed.

I can't stand the fact that Trump was able to hypnotize the country into thinking that no other republican could possibly be president other than him, If they dare step out of line, they're branded a RINO. If they dare say the legal system was "maybe" correct here, they're a RINO. And now they all have to fall in line to back him.

Does anyone truly remember Trump? The one who couldn't/didn't fire Fauci? The one who kept the country closed during COVID? (Yes, look it up, he was actually the president during COVID.) The one who had dozens of "acting" directors and couldn't keep a cabinet together? The good news for Trump is that Biden was stupid enough to try to be a two-term president.

[NotALoan]

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[ridextreme]

Trump is accused of 34 counts of fraud under Article 175 of the New York Penal Law. He was found guilty of all 34 counts. It's not that complex.

This statement actually shows how ignorant people are.

In order to be charged with/found guilty of that article (look it up, educate yourself), he would have needed to falsify his business records to hide a crime.

So again, what was the crime he was hiding when he listed a payment to a lawyer at a business expense? Listing a payment to a lawyer who drew up NDA docs to pay someone not to talk about an affair she claimed she had with him is not illegal. And if it's not a "legal expense", then what is it a sheetrock expense?

The prosecution has no evidence of any crime being hidden via the entry of "legal expense". Therefore, this whole case was a sham.

[abfunders]

This statement actually shows how ignorant people are.

In order to be charged with/found guilty of that article (look it up, educate yourself), he would have needed to falsify his business records to hide a crime.

So again, what was the crime he was hiding when he listed a payment to a lawyer at a business expense? Listing a payment to a lawyer who drew up NDA docs to pay someone not to talk about an affair she claimed she had with him is not illegal. And if it's not a "legal expense", then what is it a sheetrock expense?

The prosecution has no evidence of any crime being hidden via the entry of "legal expense". Therefore, this whole case was a sham.

So the simple question is are you an attorney and are you the judge jury and executioner? Also the police? I'm not saying that it's system can't be rigged, but we have to have some level of confidence in our systems that potentially maybe somebody did something wrong here. Again, I'm not saying that he did anything wrong, however the legal system did find him guilty. And if you love America, you can't go around yelling that the systems that make America America are illegitimate. You're basically saying the entire America is illegitimate by doing that. It's in and of itself a contradiction. Is it possible that Trump lost the election? If it's automatically impossible, and it definitely was rigged because it's impossible, then you don't trust the system and you don't trust America. So what's the end goal? Fair elections, or Trump should win? Is the end goal to see a Justice system, or to further politicize it? I'm not taking a side, I just don't want all of this contradictions flooding everybody's minds. It has to be possible for somebody to be guilty for them also to be innocent. Nobody knows if they're all democrats, and nobody knows that Democrats could potentially say something nice. Biden has said many nice things about George w bush. I'm not saying he's clean, but it is possible for the left and the right to live in the same country. You don't have to agree, you just have to agree about the structure that keeps us together. Bill Maher had a great clip about this a few months ago go take a look. Just because I agreed to Trump's policies doesn't mean that I don't think that he's an incredibly shrewd mob boss. Crime or no crime, he is a literal savant in manipulation. After he's parted from this world, many people are going to feel relieved and others will feel stupid 10 years later.

[admin]

Theres no mods on this forum unfortunately - Had there been some, there might be more integrity on this platform...
Prevent the newbies from posting until their accounts are aged 3-4 months and give Mod status to the accounts that have been here for 10+ years... problem solved.

This forum is moderated.

[pcfunder]

hes only going to lose votes if he gets prison time but I sure darn hope the Republican Party gets themselves together and finds someone new. Or maybe Robert Kennedy wins by some miracle. Biden looks and acts all nice but hes got a very clear agenda and it seems like we are on a one way ticket to world war 3 with him.

[BR-Nightmare]

The prosecution has no evidence of any crime being hidden via the entry of "legal expense". Therefore, this whole case was a sham.

A jury of our peers would refute this, oh wait!

They did.

[NotALoan]

This statement actually shows how ignorant people are.

In order to be charged with/found guilty of that article (look it up, educate yourself), he would have needed to falsify his business records to hide a crime.

So again, what was the crime he was hiding when he listed a payment to a lawyer at a business expense? Listing a payment to a lawyer who drew up NDA docs to pay someone not to talk about an affair she claimed she had with him is not illegal. And if it's not a "legal expense", then what is it a sheetrock expense?

The prosecution has no evidence of any crime being hidden via the entry of "legal expense". Therefore, this whole case was a sham.

The article ACTUALLY is for offenses involving falsification of written statements; that does not solely include business records.

11 of the charges stem from invoices for legal records.

11 of the charges stem from checks paid for legal services.

12 of the charges stem from ledger entries for legal expenses.

The key decision for the jurors was to determine if Trump falsified records in an attempt to cover up the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels, AND whether that cover-up was in anticipation of committing another crime, which is an election-law violation via federal campaign crimes, tax crimes, and falsification of documents. I think you're missing the point of the trial, and what the jurors were deciding. You are also welcome to disagree with the verdict, but the fact is the burden of proof was on the prosecution, and they provided that proof beyond a reasonable doubt. This also was not a verdict that was reached quickly; the trial took 6 weeks, and the deliberation took another two or three days if I am not mistaken.

Of course, if you think our entire legal system is a sham, you're welcome to make your way to Putin's homeland. I hear they welcome Trump supporters over there with open arms. Can't speak to the validity of THEIR legal system, however.

[ridextreme]

The key decision for the jurors was to determine if Trump falsified records in an attempt to cover up the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels, AND whether that cover-up was in anticipation of committing another crime, which is an election-law violation via federal campaign crimes, tax crimes, and falsification of documents.

Arranging someone to sign a NDA is not a crime. Paying someone to not disclose they had an affair is not a crime. So what crime was he trying to cover up by listing the payment as a legal expense?

That's the question the defense has been asking but the prosecution refuses to say.

The judge clearly favored the prosecution, he was biased and should have recused himself. They weren't prosecuting a crime, they were prosecuting a person.