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    Quote Originally Posted by FunderFunding View Post
    What does this have ANYTHING to do with MCAs? You wanna be political, keep it on FB or IG. SMH
    More people than not in the MCA world are have ancestral lineage that goes back to Israel , so this is relevant. your comment makes it seems like you dont care about the situation. The real question is, do you, @funderfunding, stand with Israel? because we at cornerstone funding stand tall with the people of Israel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornerStoneFunding View Post
    More people than not in the MCA world are have ancestral lineage that goes back to Israel , so this is relevant. your comment makes it seems like you dont care about the situation. The real question is, do you, @funderfunding, stand with Israel? because we at cornerstone funding stand tall with the people of Israel!
    This statement can be considered problematic. Not all Jews are Israelis and not all Israelis are Jews. Zionism / the State of Israel and Judaism are not interchangeable.

    Now, that being said, I agree that this is certainly not the right forum. LinkedIn seems to be going that direction, it's a personal branding thing. I'm not going to discuss it on this public forum that isn't really geared towards personal branding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abfunders View Post
    This statement can be considered problematic. Not all Jews are Israelis and not all Israelis are Jews. Zionism / the State of Israel and Judaism are not interchangeable.

    Now, that being said, I agree that this is certainly not the right forum. LinkedIn seems to be going that direction, it's a personal branding thing. I'm not going to discuss it on this public forum that isn't really geared towards personal branding.
    wouldn't using the term "jews" be more problematic.... enlighten me
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornerStoneFunding View Post
    wouldn't using the term "jews" be more problematic.... enlighten me
    Judaism isn't a nationalist ideal, it's a religion. The word "Jews" has become a term connected with anti-Semitic tropes, so many people feel uncomfortable using the word, but it's just a description of someone who is of the Jewish religion. So had you used the term "Many people in the industry are Jews" then you would be equating Judaism with Zionism/the State of Israel. While the Jewish nation as a whole has its roots and desires to return to the landmass called Israel, do not equate that with the nationalistic desire of Zionists or Arabs to want to physically live there. There is a tremendous amount of lot of nuance here, and I'll suffice it to say that it is a mistake to equate the religion with the non-religious nation-state, and you'll be confused tremendously by history if you try to define or limit Judaism to a nationalist movement that started at the turn of the 20th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abfunders View Post
    Judaism isn't a nationalist ideal, it's a religion. The word "Jews" has become a term connected with anti-Semitic tropes, so many people feel uncomfortable using the word, but it's just a description of someone who is of the Jewish religion. So had you used the term "Many people in the industry are Jews" then you would be equating Judaism with Zionism/the State of Israel. While the Jewish nation as a whole has its roots and desires to return to the landmass called Israel, do not equate that with the nationalistic desire of Zionists or Arabs to want to physically live there. There is a tremendous amount of lot of nuance here, and I'll suffice it to say that it is a mistake to equate the religion with the non-religious nation-state, and you'll be confused tremendously by history if you try to define or limit Judaism to a nationalist movement that started at the turn of the 20th century.
    you're putting words in my mouth i never said "Many people in the industry are Jews" my exact quote was "ancestral lineage that goes back to Israel" i never used the word jew. my comment never referred to ONE certain group but all ancestral linage that goes back to Israel.

    please quote me correctly and do not put words in my mouth
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornerStoneFunding View Post
    you're putting words in my mouth i never said "Many people in the industry are Jews" my exact quote was "ancestral lineage that goes back to Israel" i never used the word jew. my comment never referred to ONE certain group but all ancestral linage that goes back to Israel.

    please quote me correctly and do not put words in my mouth
    Please re-read what I wrote. "Had you said" (which you didn't). However, you said "goes back to Israel" which is not accurate. Most people in the industry are not direct descendants of Israelis. The direct descendance is from the Jewish people who originate from the Biblical land of Israel, and lived in the diaspora for 2000-3000 years (depending on which sub-group). So really, you just meant a lot of people in the alt lending/funding space are Jewish, which is an accurate statement. Which is why I then responded to you that you shouldn't equate Zionism and Judaism, it allows people to think that the religion is a nationalist movement, which it is not. My opinions about the situation are irrelevant, I'm just interested in setting THIS part of the record straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abfunders View Post
    Please re-read what I wrote. "Had you said" (which you didn't). However, you said "goes back to Israel" which is not accurate. Most people in the industry are not direct descendants of Israelis. The direct descendance is from the Jewish people who originate from the Biblical land of Israel, and lived in the diaspora for 2000-3000 years (depending on which sub-group). So really, you just meant a lot of people in the alt lending/funding space are Jewish, which is an accurate statement. Which is why I then responded to you that you shouldn't equate Zionism and Judaism, it allows people to think that the religion is a nationalist movement, which it is not. My opinions about the situation are irrelevant, I'm just interested in setting THIS part of the record straight.
    you're a joke and each response you make, proves you don't care. kick rocks bud
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornerStoneFunding View Post
    More people than not in the MCA world are have ancestral lineage that goes back to Israel , so this is relevant. your comment makes it seems like you dont care about the situation. The real question is, do you, @funderfunding, stand with Israel? because we at cornerstone funding stand tall with the people of Israel!
    My political views (just like everyone else's) DOESN'T MATTER ON THIS FORUM. This is a place of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunderFunding View Post
    My political views (just like everyone else's) DOESN'T MATTER ON THIS FORUM. This is a place of business.
    We've discussed politics here before. On LinkedIn it is extremely common and it's also a place of business. Again, like I said, as a personal branding thing. For example, MLB came out in favor of BLM, Bud Light came out in favor of their things, and we see how that's playing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunderFunding View Post
    My political views (just like everyone else's) DOESN'T MATTER ON THIS FORUM. This is a place of business.
    you seemed triggered by people standing up for Israel
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornerStoneFunding View Post
    you seemed triggered by people standing up for Israel
    Who the Fook are you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonefund View Post
    Who the Fook are you
    my info is below, the real question is, who are you??
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunderFunding View Post
    My political views (just like everyone else's) DOESN'T MATTER ON THIS FORUM. This is a place of business.

    The welfare of humanity is my business.

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