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    It's like you open up a box of chocolates but they're all the same flavor, ****... only to realize the supposedly lead company is really a Cash Advance shop selling the worst of their CRM leads... It's insane when every lead is a similar situation or simply impossible to contact... they really figured out how to sell their waste water & use the proceeds to purchase from the Springs & then recycle again... it's an ugly game out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by EFlo718 View Post
    It's like you open up a box of chocolates but they're all the same flavor, ****... only to realize the supposedly lead company is really a Cash Advance shop selling the worst of their CRM leads... It's insane when every lead is a similar situation or simply impossible to contact... they really figured out how to sell their waste water & use the proceeds to purchase from the Springs & then recycle again... it's an ugly game out there
    Don't purchase Leads or Data from those that solicit to you out of no where.

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    not much luck with the main st guys either Pop Crumbs- complete waste... Merridan-waste water

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    Quote Originally Posted by EFlo718 View Post
    not much luck with the main st guys either Pop Crumbs- complete waste... Merridan-waste water
    Understood. I was referring more to the Cash Advance Companies with the Pop Up Lead Fronts that you might find soliciting via email, linkedin, FB. I know those (2) you mentioned have been around a while so perhaps have a word with them as to the how and why you feel like that. All the best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EFlo718 View Post
    not much luck with the main st guys either Pop Crumbs- complete waste... Merridan-waste water
    Ever tried cashyew ? I've heard a few things about them, just curious if its true

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    new to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by EFlo718 View Post
    new to me
    feel free to email us hello@popcrumbs.com to and ill look in to your account.

    If all leads are garbage to you, it might be your process, pitch or tech that's the issue, not where you get leads from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abcloser View Post
    Ever tried cashyew ? I've heard a few things about them, just curious if its true


    I’m actually eating candied cashews as I’m reading this post. Eflo, if you’re having these many issues with leads (and who isn’t…. thats pretty much the super villain origin story of www.dumbleads.com), it sounds like you need a more healing hand, customized solution where you have your own internal leads coming in, customized for your team.

    Feel free to reach out if you’d like more info.

    That goes for anyone else who had taken negative lead damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abcloser View Post
    Ever tried cashyew ? I've heard a few things about them, just curious if its true
    They opened a mca broker shop and now sell the crap that doesn't connect.
    Last edited by Fundthis!; 10-23-2023 at 12:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fundthis! View Post
    They opened a mca broker shop and now sell the crap that doesn't connect.
    Most lead brokers end up being an ISO, why sell a lead for $50 when you can make 5x that. Lendio started out exactly like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonBishop View Post
    Great scene. Old school sales training, old school tricks.

    Funny part is I am cleaning out our CRM the last 2 weeks, deleted so many MCA firms with websites down and bouncing emails, so many dont last. Its a tough business both for leads and being an MCA firm at any level in this space, a lot of people come in off the sales pitch of work from home and make 6 figures but its not easy, you need to compete with bigger companies all day long.

    Theres a level of sophistication you need to make leads work. CRM, drip campaigns, SMS registration, working websites, emails, and pitch copy that makes someone want to work with you, that's the key to it all, the words you use from the moment you get the lead, verbal and non verbal.

    Lots of good sales trainers out there, engaging in their content will help a lot of people out there. Ryan Stewman, Jeremy Lee Miner, Alex Hormozi, a lot of these guys have great tips for how to persuade others because thats what youre doing, as a lead generator my persuasion leads to the lead, the rest is up to the service provider working the lead. Theres a bunch of kangaroos for sure in all leads, but theres alot of interested prospects turned off by sales people every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopCrumbs View Post
    Great scene. Old school sales training, old school tricks.

    Funny part is I am cleaning out our CRM the last 2 weeks, deleted so many MCA firms with websites down and bouncing emails, so many dont last. Its a tough business both for leads and being an MCA firm at any level in this space, a lot of people come in off the sales pitch of work from home and make 6 figures but its not easy, you need to compete with bigger companies all day long.

    Theres a level of sophistication you need to make leads work. CRM, drip campaigns, SMS registration, working websites, emails, and pitch copy that makes someone want to work with you, that's the key to it all, the words you use from the moment you get the lead, verbal and non verbal.

    Lots of good sales trainers out there, engaging in their content will help a lot of people out there. Ryan Stewman, Jeremy Lee Miner, Alex Hormozi, a lot of these guys have great tips for how to persuade others because thats what youre doing, as a lead generator my persuasion leads to the lead, the rest is up to the service provider working the lead. Theres a bunch of kangaroos for sure in all leads, but theres alot of interested prospects turned off by sales people every day.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopCrumbs View Post
    Great scene. Old school sales training, old school tricks.

    Funny part is I am cleaning out our CRM the last 2 weeks, deleted so many MCA firms with websites down and bouncing emails, so many dont last. Its a tough business both for leads and being an MCA firm at any level in this space, a lot of people come in off the sales pitch of work from home and make 6 figures but its not easy, you need to compete with bigger companies all day long.

    Theres a level of sophistication you need to make leads work. CRM, drip campaigns, SMS registration, working websites, emails, and pitch copy that makes someone want to work with you, that's the key to it all, the words you use from the moment you get the lead, verbal and non verbal.

    Lots of good sales trainers out there, engaging in their content will help a lot of people out there. Ryan Stewman, Jeremy Lee Miner, Alex Hormozi, a lot of these guys have great tips for how to persuade others because thats what youre doing, as a lead generator my persuasion leads to the lead, the rest is up to the service provider working the lead. Theres a bunch of kangaroos for sure in all leads, but theres alot of interested prospects turned off by sales people every day.


    Tried to find a hole to exploit, for the purpose of humor exploitation, but the post is pretty solid. A lot of this work is follow up.

    I find also when ISOs come from other industries, especially ones that deal a lot with referrals, like real estate or insurance, they’re unfamiliar with the low receptiveness and closing ratios of cash advance, and taken by surprise.

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