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    What Lenders compete with Kapitus

    Who are the lenders that would compete with a 1.30 sell rate from Kapitus. Currently competing with a $150,000 15 month offer that is a 1.30. Are there lenders out there that would compete with these type of offers?

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    IOU comes to mind
    Not sure what OnDeck is putting out these days
    Try to sell him on a Bluevine LOC, tell him the advantages of a LOC over a term product etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by abfunders View Post
    IOU comes to mind
    Not sure what OnDeck is putting out these days
    Try to sell him on a Bluevine LOC, tell him the advantages of a LOC over a term product etc etc
    Recently I have seen Ondeck be more expensive on the rate but are flexible with the terms going out to as long as 24 Months. Bluevine is a good option, thank you for the suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGuyWhoFunds View Post
    Who are the lenders that would compete with a 1.30 sell rate from Kapitus. Currently competing with a $150,000 15 month offer that is a 1.30. Are there lenders out there that would compete with these type of offers?
    I would talk to the merchant and ask him why he wants a 15 month term or longer. Business always need money and if he is inn the same boat by taking a 15 month term and needs money in a few months he will have to take a stack. Or if we waits 8 months then they will refinance his balance then the 15 month term will turn into 8 months and the new cost is 1.60 because they will charge him double on the new balance by paying them self off. Depending on the industry daily balances and credit i can get you a 6-9 month term at around a 1.30 sell rate range and every few months we will just extend the term out and add the new money to the the back of the old balance so over 15 months the merchant gets more money at a 1.30 like credit line in a way.


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    Have you looked into SBA Bolt $150K fund in a few weeks?
    Financial Lynx better LOC than BlueVine....but takes time
    Revolving with no term, no monthly fees.
    Steve Benjamin
    Professional Business Loans

    522 Contessa
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    https://probizloans.net/
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    949.228.1050


    @ 24 hour funding working capital loans
    @ Term loans from 3 years to 10 years at 9.5% and up
    @ Equipment financing up to 7 years
    @ Property loans - Hard Money and traditional - Primary, Investment, commercial, land, fix and flip, construction.
    @ SBA loans - 7A and 504.
    @ Private money equity and debt for major investments
    @ Personal Loans up to gross income from personal tax return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGuyWhoFunds View Post
    Who are the lenders that would compete with a 1.30 sell rate from Kapitus. Currently competing with a $150,000 15 month offer that is a 1.30. Are there lenders out there that would compete with these type of offers?
    Any funder that doesn't back door .. wins the the competition.


    I have funded 1.22 12 months paying 4 with them. .. but your paper is not protected there... everyone who has been in the industry for a minute knows that.
    Last edited by goatFunding; 08-23-2023 at 05:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abfunders View Post
    IOU comes to mind
    Not sure what OnDeck is putting out these days
    Try to sell him on a Bluevine LOC, tell him the advantages of a LOC over a term product etc etc
    Iou is 1.35-1.38 15 months paying 10

    Sos capital offers 1.15 15-24 month deals, down to 1.10 (term loan). 1 for 1 upsell up to 6-10

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    Quote Originally Posted by closer129 View Post
    I would talk to the merchant and ask him why he wants a 15 month term or longer. Business always need money and if he is inn the same boat by taking a 15 month term and needs money in a few months he will have to take a stack. Or if we waits 8 months then they will refinance his balance then the 15 month term will turn into 8 months and the new cost is 1.60 because they will charge him double on the new balance by paying them self off. Depending on the industry daily balances and credit i can get you a 6-9 month term at around a 1.30 sell rate range and every few months we will just extend the term out and add the new money to the the back of the old balance so over 15 months the merchant gets more money at a 1.30 like credit line in a way.


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    Kapitus offers addons even at 3 months in for many merchants on 15-24m deals. They fund 2nds too. Theyll stack themselves to not get stacked elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonefund View Post
    Kapitus offers addons even at 3 months in for many merchants on 15-24m deals. They fund 2nds too. Theyll stack themselves to not get stacked elsewhere.
    Kapitus will add on new money to the back of the old keep the payment the same and wait to get paid on the new balance while the old one finishes getting paid off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olderguy View Post
    Have you looked into SBA Bolt $150K fund in a few weeks?
    Financial Lynx better LOC than BlueVine....but takes time
    Revolving with no term, no monthly fees.
    your useless here MCA guys only on this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerhousecapital View Post
    your useless here MCA guys only on this one
    I actually appreciate his suggestion, you don't always win deals with cash advances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGuyWhoFunds View Post
    I actually appreciate his suggestion, you don't always win deals with cash advances.
    Here's Financial Lynx LOC program:

    DOES YOUR CLIENT QUALIFY?
    Business older than 2 years
    Owner(s) has credit score of 700 or higher
    Tax return shows at least $350,000 or more for gross revenue
    Tax return does not show loss greater than $100,000
    Tax return does not show revenues exceed $10 million (may qualify for our other
    products)
    Business Owner(s) does not have a criminal record
    Business does not have any federal or state tax liens
    Business owner(s) is a US citizen or Green Card holder
    Business is NOT a restricted Industry

    PRE-APPROVAL REQUIRED DOCUMENTS
    Fully completed Application (no blanks)
    Most recent filed business tax return
    ID (from each owner over 20% equity)
    3 months of most recent bank statements
    Recent Experian FICO V2 credit report, if available

    LOAN AMOUNTS
     up to $250,000 per bank
    **We are often able to open lines at multiple banks for one business. **

    RATE & MINIMUM PAYMENT
     Interest Only Payment
     Rates are Variable based on the WSJ Prime index,
     Current annual rate is starting at WSJ Prime+2% or +3%
    *Calculation on interest only payments.
    If Rate is 7% And client draw $100,000 @ 7% = $7000 annually / 12 months = $583.33 in
    minimum monthly interest payments.
    Revolving - no term.

    MOST IMPORTANT - CLIENT NEEDS TO GO TO THEIR SECRETARY OF STATE AND GET US THE UCC FILINGS THAT ARE SHOWN.



    SBA Bolt:

    Who gets approved?
    2 years in business
    720 FICO
    175 Small Business Liquidity Score ETRAN
    WORKING CAPITAL ONLY

    What Loan Amount?

    30% of Gross Revenue (top line from last tax return) UP TO $150k
    No cash flow analysis performed
    Can take it again after 3 months without paying off the first!
    10 Year Term Loan – Wall Street Journal Prime +2.75% - No Prepay Penalty – No Collateral! 10.5% right now

    How Long does it take?

    Currently trending 2 - 3 weeks from Application to Funding

    Prequalification Documents:

    Loan app and:

    1. 2022 year end P & L and balance sheet, 2023 Ytd
    2. 2 years business tax returns
    3 2 years personal tax returns
    4 Schedule of liabilities form 2202
    5 Use of funds summary -
    6. Fico scores
    7. 6 months business bank statements

    How many W-2 employees do you have?
    Do you own or rent your primary residence
    What is your monthly payment?
    Last edited by Olderguy; 08-25-2023 at 10:51 AM.
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    https://probizloans.net/
    Broker, Underwriter, general business loan expert
    949.228.1050


    @ 24 hour funding working capital loans
    @ Term loans from 3 years to 10 years at 9.5% and up
    @ Equipment financing up to 7 years
    @ Property loans - Hard Money and traditional - Primary, Investment, commercial, land, fix and flip, construction.
    @ SBA loans - 7A and 504.
    @ Private money equity and debt for major investments
    @ Personal Loans up to gross income from personal tax return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by closer129 View Post
    Kapitus will add on new money to the back of the old keep the payment the same and wait to get paid on the new balance while the old one finishes getting paid off?
    The payment is increased with the addon

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    Which bank is paying the best commission with the Bolt program right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGuyWhoFunds View Post
    Who are the lenders that would compete with a 1.30 sell rate from Kapitus. Currently competing with a $150,000 15 month offer that is a 1.30. Are there lenders out there that would compete with these type of offers?
    Sounds like 5 pts retention pricing

    Iou wont beat that unless you take 3 pts or so

    Retail channel ondeck (got 24m 1.20-1.23's) Biz2credit (cancapital? Dont use em, they're cheap tho) pirs capital (you'll make 2 or, but their dollar amt will be higher)

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    Quote Originally Posted by welovefunding View Post
    Which bank is paying the best commission with the Bolt program right now?
    SmartBiz pays 2% but with volume you can get 3%. CreditBench went down to 1%. But now I heard 2% again....so you'll have to check with them.
    Last edited by Olderguy; 10-18-2023 at 12:27 AM.
    Steve Benjamin
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    522 Contessa
    Irvine, CA 92620
    steveprobiz@gmail.com
    https://probizloans.net/
    Broker, Underwriter, general business loan expert
    949.228.1050


    @ 24 hour funding working capital loans
    @ Term loans from 3 years to 10 years at 9.5% and up
    @ Equipment financing up to 7 years
    @ Property loans - Hard Money and traditional - Primary, Investment, commercial, land, fix and flip, construction.
    @ SBA loans - 7A and 504.
    @ Private money equity and debt for major investments
    @ Personal Loans up to gross income from personal tax return.

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    Bay First is at 2% Referral Fees according to their latest email.
    Dave Lambert, Business Development
    dave@fcbankcard.com
    Merchant Services Consultant
    High Risk Merchant Payment Solutions
    SBA 7(a) Loans & Short-Term Funding
    T/VM: 727-291-7890
    Office: 727-233-1111
    Skype: fc-financial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeeman07 View Post
    Bay First is at 2% Referral Fees according to their latest email.
    Yeah...but a buddy of mine was going to be paid only 1% and he had to fight and fight to get the 2%.
    Steve Benjamin
    Professional Business Loans

    522 Contessa
    Irvine, CA 92620
    steveprobiz@gmail.com
    https://probizloans.net/
    Broker, Underwriter, general business loan expert
    949.228.1050


    @ 24 hour funding working capital loans
    @ Term loans from 3 years to 10 years at 9.5% and up
    @ Equipment financing up to 7 years
    @ Property loans - Hard Money and traditional - Primary, Investment, commercial, land, fix and flip, construction.
    @ SBA loans - 7A and 504.
    @ Private money equity and debt for major investments
    @ Personal Loans up to gross income from personal tax return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeeman07 View Post
    Bay First is at 2% Referral Fees according to their latest email.
    Someone's email marketing doesn't mean jack ****. It's what they actually do that matters.
    Kevin Henry
    VP-Business Development
    Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
    561-850-9346
    Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
    1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
    Boynton Beach, FL 33426

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    Kapitus will add on new money to the back of the old keep the payment the same and wait to get paid on the new balance while the old one finishes getting paid off?
    I haven't seen many places do addon's since early 2020. Not to say Kap won't do it in a specific situation, I just haven't seen them do it.

    They're trustworthy and are a place that you can rely on them to keep you apprised and paid your commission even when a merchant calls them direct on their refinances.
    Last edited by downtownfunding; 10-19-2023 at 10:10 AM.

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