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    The new user soliciting deals whose company website goes to a "parked free courtesy of godaddy" has been banned.

    If you are some random dude who says "look me up in the courts" but you don't even have a website and you don't exist on the internet, you are banned. I don't care who vouches for you or that you "fund millions a month and don't need a website." banned.

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    Question: Is there a way to list all that have been banned from DF in one spot instead of hunting down banned users individually. It would be helpful when people blindly send emails soliciting form business. Knowing they have been banned from DF would be useful when doing due dilly on brokers/funder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedley Lamarr View Post
    Question: Is there a way to list all that have been banned from DF in one spot instead of hunting down banned users individually. It would be helpful when people blindly send emails soliciting form business. Knowing they have been banned from DF would be useful when doing due dilly on brokers/funder.
    Maybe create a "penalty box" section....
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    Having a list of banned users seems like a decent idea

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    You guys are not reliable, you do no research. you simply pick and choose who pays you the most money for marketing and those are who you consider funders. Maybe confirm they have attorneys, collection firms, contracts, guidelines, and iso agreement, etc all connecting to the owner/ company in question. You simply are a fake news center for who you dictate to be a funder. become reliable and make this form what it should be and maybe help our industry clean up instead of trying to make it your way. if you want to change the funding industry, get some money and fund better than the biggest companies. until then do your part as a forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seth Davis View Post
    +1
    Having a list of banned users seems like a decent idea
    Second this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seth Davis View Post
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    Having a list of banned users seems like a decent idea
    What good will that do? If they are banned, it clearly says so next to their name.
    So like the stubborn children they are, they refuse to listen or learn, so they go set up a new username.
    Maybe if reps out there learned how to develop REAL relationships, and stopped running after the next new shiny object, you wouldn't have these issues with rogue funders/Super ISOs/reps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chambo View Post
    What good will that do? If they are banned, it clearly says so next to their name.
    So like the stubborn children they are, they refuse to listen or learn, so they go set up a new username.
    Maybe if reps out there learned how to develop REAL relationships, and stopped running after the next new shiny object, you wouldn't have these issues with rogue funders/Super ISOs/reps
    True, but some who have been banned used their actual names.
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    Third this

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISOKING View Post
    You guys are not reliable, you do no research. you simply pick and choose who pays you the most money for marketing and those are who you consider funders. Maybe confirm they have attorneys, collection firms, contracts, guidelines, and iso agreement, etc all connecting to the owner/ company in question. You simply are a fake news center for who you dictate to be a funder. become reliable and make this form what it should be and maybe help our industry clean up instead of trying to make it your way. if you want to change the funding industry, get some money and fund better than the biggest companies. until then do your part as a forum.
    So this was probably more true before DF got acquired by the current owner(s). There are a lot of ways to improve this industry and you dont need to fund more than the big boys.

    Here is an interesting idea that will definitely take some resources to accomplish:
    You have a vendor section where you can register your company. You can list broker, funder, lead provider, etc.

    Once someone registers the company, it can automatically create a post to a new forum section called "Vendors", and the users of this forum can pick apart the companies, which already happens on an almost daily basis. The "vetting" post can be linked to their profile so any user is 1 click away from finding "raw" comments.

    You can't solicit deals until you have registered your company
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISOKING View Post
    You guys are not reliable, you do no research. you simply pick and choose who pays you the most money for marketing and those are who you consider funders. Maybe confirm they have attorneys, collection firms, contracts, guidelines, and iso agreement, etc all connecting to the owner/ company in question. You simply are a fake news center for who you dictate to be a funder. become reliable and make this form what it should be and maybe help our industry clean up instead of trying to make it your way. if you want to change the funding industry, get some money and fund better than the biggest companies. until then do your part as a forum.
    F@ck around and find out.
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    Gentlemen, If I may, I believe we must be conceptually aggregate here. I will expound on what I mean by that, but also on the message conveyed by the admin from my perspective.

    The philosophical underpinning associated with the admins message is that we reside in an industry that requires us to be perceptually shrewd in the absolute purest form possible; because if we aren't, what will become of us is that of an individual who has been chewed up and spit out by the substantive multitude of calamity that this industry can inherently present. An oversimplified platitude for this is "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck.", and in our industry even IF the "duck" deviates from the standard and isn't truly what we assumed them to be, for example a lender you've never heard of who's marketing a specific program you could utilize but you refrained because of your own skepticism; it's not like you'll never regain the opportunity of partnership.

    Guys, the price of excellence is eternal vigilance. If you are shrewd, If you've truly put the extensive level of time required to operate within the bounds of our space proficiently, your advocation of a "Banned Members List" should be nonexistent. This isn't a jab at anybody in particular but rather the opposite, it's really a presentation of the reality of your own capabilities because what will a Banned Member List do that a veteran in the industry can't already do and actively does on a daily basis? Broker, Lender, Investor, it doesn't matter who you are, if you reside in this space, if you've embedded yourself in the space enough to the point that you actively participate in a forum dedicated to the space, it's a visceral requirement to be vigilant whether it's a decision to fund a client for a lender or an implemented hedge against getting back-doored for a broker, it's already inherently amongst your own purview to operationally engage with everything associated in the same fashion.

    Lastly, if you're in the nascent stage of your career here, giving you a resource like a Banned Member List would be doing a disservice to you because getting fooled by malevolently deceptive people will inevitably be a seminal part of your positive progression. Pain breeds growth. If a deceptive party superimposes themselves to the point of fooling you it's a reflection of your own ability of perceptual cogency or lack there of; which isn't a bad thing, it just means you take the experience, learn from it, and become that much better. The "Banned Member List" represents a short cut, the "Banned Member List" can represent many things, it just happens to be what it is here, but it's the equivalent of the short cut mentality, the hiring of security instead of learning how to defend yourself, and in this industry, "hiring security instead of learning how to defend yourself" will hurt nobody aside from your own self in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finance View Post
    Gentlemen, If I may, I believe we must be conceptually aggregate here. I will expound on what I mean by that, but also on the message conveyed by the admin from my perspective.

    The philosophical underpinning associated with the admins message is that we reside in an industry that requires us to be perceptually shrewd in the absolute purest form possible; because if we aren't, what will become of us is that of an individual who has been chewed up and spit out by the substantive multitude of calamity that this industry can inherently present. An oversimplified platitude for this is "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck.", and in our industry even IF the "duck" deviates from the standard and isn't truly what we assumed them to be, for example a lender you've never heard of who's marketing a specific program you could utilize but you refrained because of your own skepticism; it's not like you'll never regain the opportunity of partnership.

    Guys, the price of excellence is eternal vigilance. If you are shrewd, If you've truly put the extensive level of time required to operate within the bounds of our space proficiently, your advocation of a "Banned Members List" should be nonexistent. This isn't a jab at anybody in particular but rather the opposite, it's really a presentation of the reality of your own capabilities because what will a Banned Member List do that a veteran in the industry can't already do and actively does on a daily basis? Broker, Lender, Investor, it doesn't matter who you are, if you reside in this space, if you've embedded yourself in the space enough to the point that you actively participate in a forum dedicated to the space, it's a visceral requirement to be vigilant whether it's a decision to fund a client for a lender or an implemented hedge against getting back-doored for a broker, it's already inherently amongst your own purview to operationally engage with everything associated in the same fashion.

    Lastly, if you're in the nascent stage of your career here, giving you a resource like a Banned Member List would be doing a disservice to you because getting fooled by malevolently deceptive people will inevitably be a seminal part of your positive progression. Pain breeds growth. If a deceptive party superimposes themselves to the point of fooling you it's a reflection of your own ability of perceptual cogency or lack there of; which isn't a bad thing, it just means you take the experience, learn from it, and become that much better. The "Banned Member List" represents a short cut, the "Banned Member List" can represent many things, it just happens to be what it is here, but it's the equivalent of the short cut mentality, the hiring of security instead of learning how to defend yourself, and in this industry, "hiring security instead of learning how to defend yourself" will hurt nobody aside from your own self in the end.
    Two things:

    -I appreciate your comments.
    -There are a lot of big words in your comments. You may want to dumb it down for DF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedley Lamarr View Post
    Two things:

    -I appreciate your comments.
    -There are a lot of big words in your comments. You may want to dumb it down for DF.
    Dumbed down version: Don't let Sean be your nanny. If you have a "list of banned people" then the non-banned will just use it to their advantage and say "look, I'm not banned." Shortcut to learning red flags and training your own brain to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finance View Post
    Gentlemen, If I may, I believe we must be conceptually aggregate here. I will expound on what I mean by that, but also on the message conveyed by the admin from my perspective.

    The philosophical underpinning associated with the admins message is that we reside in an industry that requires us to be perceptually shrewd in the absolute purest form possible; because if we aren't, what will become of us is that of an individual who has been chewed up and spit out by the substantive multitude of calamity that this industry can inherently present. An oversimplified platitude for this is "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck.", and in our industry even IF the "duck" deviates from the standard and isn't truly what we assumed them to be, for example a lender you've never heard of who's marketing a specific program you could utilize but you refrained because of your own skepticism; it's not like you'll never regain the opportunity of partnership.

    Guys, the price of excellence is eternal vigilance. If you are shrewd, If you've truly put the extensive level of time required to operate within the bounds of our space proficiently, your advocation of a "Banned Members List" should be nonexistent. This isn't a jab at anybody in particular but rather the opposite, it's really a presentation of the reality of your own capabilities because what will a Banned Member List do that a veteran in the industry can't already do and actively does on a daily basis? Broker, Lender, Investor, it doesn't matter who you are, if you reside in this space, if you've embedded yourself in the space enough to the point that you actively participate in a forum dedicated to the space, it's a visceral requirement to be vigilant whether it's a decision to fund a client for a lender or an implemented hedge against getting back-doored for a broker, it's already inherently amongst your own purview to operationally engage with everything associated in the same fashion.

    Lastly, if you're in the nascent stage of your career here, giving you a resource like a Banned Member List would be doing a disservice to you because getting fooled by malevolently deceptive people will inevitably be a seminal part of your positive progression. Pain breeds growth. If a deceptive party superimposes themselves to the point of fooling you it's a reflection of your own ability of perceptual cogency or lack there of; which isn't a bad thing, it just means you take the experience, learn from it, and become that much better. The "Banned Member List" represents a short cut, the "Banned Member List" can represent many things, it just happens to be what it is here, but it's the equivalent of the short cut mentality, the hiring of security instead of learning how to defend yourself, and in this industry, "hiring security instead of learning how to defend yourself" will hurt nobody aside from your own self in the end.
    Or in summary, grow up and get a pair. Don't fall for any Tom, Dick, or Harry, and what doesn't kill you will make you stronger. Live & Learn. We all went through it, so can you

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin View Post
    The new user soliciting deals whose company website goes to a "parked free courtesy of godaddy" has been banned.

    If you are some random dude who says "look me up in the courts" but you don't even have a website and you don't exist on the internet, you are banned. I don't care who vouches for you or that you "fund millions a month and don't need a website." banned.
    Can seabrookfunding be banned, please?

    All their funded deals wire in as bmf and debit as seabrook. They're another iso pretending to be a broker and not disclosing contact info.

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