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08-27-2021, 12:31 PM #1
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08-27-2021, 12:55 PM #2
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Believe what you want with whatever data you'd like you make up, but hundreds of millions have gotten it and it's safe. It also works. I feel like you have to try really hard not to understand this. Anyone who actually believes conspiracy theories about the vaccines (chemical made by serial felons??) are in the minority.
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08-27-2021, 01:00 PM #3John Celifarco
Managing Partner
Horizon Funding Group
3423 Ave S
Brooklyn, NY 11234
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08-27-2021, 01:19 PM #4
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Kevin Henry
VP-Business Development
Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
561-850-9346
Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
Boynton Beach, FL 33426
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08-27-2021, 01:25 PM #5John Celifarco
Managing Partner
Horizon Funding Group
3423 Ave S
Brooklyn, NY 11234
T: (347) 773-3990 | F: (718) 795-1990
Linkedin: Profile
Email: john@horizonfundinggroup.com
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08-27-2021, 01:33 PM #6
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Kevin Henry
VP-Business Development
Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
561-850-9346
Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
Boynton Beach, FL 33426
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08-27-2021, 01:33 PM #7
Name any other drug(vaccine or otherwise) which has killed over 13 thousand people and injured over half a million according to the CDC (VAERS) in just 8 months that is still on the market. I can always recognize those who are fully indoctrinated when they use the term "conspiracy theory" which means: "I repeat what I hear on TV without question and reject any information to the contrary regardless of how much actual evidence there is to support it." If, as you say thinking for myself like, for example, the known fact that every. single. manufacturer. of these injections has multiple felony violations - (look it up) - then it is an honor to be in the minority. This country was founded on a dissenting minority so I'm in good company, thank you! Mindless minions, talking to themselves, re-enforcing what they hear on TV like the fake, Fauci science and propaganda is the problem, not the solution. Two weeks to "flatten the curve", remember that? That was 80 weeks ago. Now it's "show me your papers" at least in NYC. Did you label anyone predicting Vaxx-ports in NYC a "conspiracy theorist" last year maybe?
So spare me the lamenting "oh you conspiracy theorists" Puh-lese! People far more qualified than you or I are screaming these things at the top of their lungs so being pompous and acting like the information you think you know is unquestionable. I could almost feel sorry for your blindness if it weren't for your astonishing arrogance.
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08-27-2021, 01:43 PM #8
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My wife runs an OR at a hospital. 130% capacity. 3x the number of patients with severe COVID than the last peak. 75% of admitted patients in the hospital have COVID. 80% of them are unvaxxed and dying quicker. Sadly all of the staff is vaxxed and getting COVID due to so much exposure. Not one person has been admitted or died from the vaccine or wearing a mask.
Kevin Henry
VP-Business Development
Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
561-850-9346
Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
Boynton Beach, FL 33426
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08-27-2021, 02:16 PM #9
Check your sources of data Kevin, I respect you and have no desire to expand this discussion. The CDC has made clear that anyone one who has received the covid injection within 14 days is considered un-injected. That is, the data is being manipulated. I also have relatives and friends in the healthcare community and on the front lines of pandemic control. Let's leave it at that. I respect everyone's right to choose which information they want to act on, or not. Choice is critical and everyone is responsible for their own, individual medical decisions. I started this thread to offer an alternative to those on this board who do not require being injected as a condition for employment. Think what you wish about covid or the injection, I hope we can all agree that, coercion to take ANY drug as a condition of employment is wrong. Period.
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08-27-2021, 02:26 PM #10
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Um....I have been married to my "source of data" for over 20 years. She is clinical, but senior management, a member of AORN, and graduated from one of the top schools in the US with honors. WE have many friends and family in the nursing field. I have been living this every day for the last 18 months......not hearing it from friends or reading about it in rags. I have also been volunteering my time to help the healthcare professionals in my community that are completely overwhelmed and at times burned out. When was the last time you moved supplies to another hospital to help out your friends and sources.....
Enough of this conversation because quite frankly....it pisses me off.Kevin Henry
VP-Business Development
Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
561-850-9346
Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
Boynton Beach, FL 33426
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08-27-2021, 02:52 PM #11
Agreed, I feel the same way.
For now let's at least agree that everyone should be able to make their own choice and not be bullied into it or threatened with unemployment. Everyone has a story to tell and personal experiences notwithstanding, there is far more available data and information about this pandemic now and many more sources of scientific, pier reviewed information. More than enough for anyone who wants to gain understanding.
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08-27-2021, 01:50 PM #12
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08-27-2021, 02:06 PM #13
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08-27-2021, 03:40 PM #14
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08-27-2021, 04:43 PM #15
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08-27-2021, 05:11 PM #16
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08-27-2021, 05:23 PM #17
You mean this Ivermectin? The one that won a Nobel Prize? That one? The one which has reduced covid cases in India 98%? This is way too easy, you guys are no fun at all:
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/me...press-release/
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08-27-2021, 05:59 PM #18
Ok now, see? This is where misinformation can be a problem. You are deeply misinformed about the VAERS reporting system yet you publicly make assertive statements with no reservation at all.
The opposite of what you claim is true. That is, reporting an adverse effect on VAERS is quite difficult. In fact, a Harvard study showed that only 1% of adverse vaccine effects show up on VAERS as a result of how difficult they make it for doctors to make an entry. Despite the fact that only 1% of all adverse events including death are actually entered, covid jabs alone have already surpassed in 8 months more deaths (over 13 thousand) than all previous reported vaccine-related deaths in 20 years combined. Here is the publicly available information from the CDC: https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
Ignoring data and mocking effective treatments is following the science?
Again, it was never my intention to have this discussion at all much less here on DF.
I simply wanted to help anyone looking for work where they don't require a medical procedure.
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08-27-2021, 09:22 PM #19
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False again. Anyone can report on VAERS. Go ahead right now and do it yourself. Does not mean they are actually true. The website literally says that anyone can report on VAERS. Seems to me more you are getting quotes from articles or pundits that fit your narrative but none of that can be backed up. Using the word jab is an easy sign to tell bias.
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08-28-2021, 12:49 PM #20
PM me, we'll compare notes. I'm not here to argue or prove anyone else wrong or that my positions are correct.
Everyone is trying to figure things out and make the right choices for themselves and their families, I'm nobody special.
I do know when I'm being lied to and manipulated though, I've had a lot of practice! lol!
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08-28-2021, 03:57 PM #21
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For everyone worried about who does or does not have shots -
Over the past few months we have over 1,000,000 entering the USA across the southern border from all over the world.
No Shots, No Vetting - - Jut enter the USA and the Donkeykratz will bus and fly them all over the USA - not a care in the world.Dave Lambert, Business Development
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High Risk Merchant Payment Solutions
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08-28-2021, 07:34 AM #22
I respect your right to be dead wrong.
I also realize that I could be wrong too which is why I read, research and educate myself as much as possible.
The link you posted is quite long and delves into deep details regarding Open Vaers, thank you for offering this information. It's dead wrong but thank you anyway.
As far as I'm concerned this discussion has come off the tracks and needs to end. For the last time I'll say it so I'm clear:
Regardless of what you believe or don't believe about the virus or injection, state mandated medical procedures as a condition for employment are un-American, illegal, immoral and incompatible with a free society. Personal medical choice cannot and should not be mandated by the state. Period.
IN closing I reiterate my offer to post any employment positions offered by the good people on this board where injections for covid are not mandated.
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08-30-2021, 11:34 AM #23
So, no one has died from the injection then?
If you want to rumble for real, PM me and we'll take this off the board.
I read what you sent, I already know why it's dead wrong.
Happy to send you what I've read with sources, references and historical context, we can help each other understand things better!
This is not a discussion compatible for DF - I started the thread to offer alternative employment positions in the MCA industry to those who have chosen for whatever reason not to be injected. That is all.
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08-30-2021, 11:53 AM #24John Celifarco
Managing Partner
Horizon Funding Group
3423 Ave S
Brooklyn, NY 11234
T: (347) 773-3990 | F: (718) 795-1990
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08-30-2021, 12:03 PM #25
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The Rate of Death for the COVID Vaccine is 0.0019%
"Modern vaccines are among the greatest public health achievements in history, preventing thousands of illnesses and deaths each year in the United States alone. However, as illness, disability and death from vaccine-preventable diseases have decreased, concerns over vaccine safety have increased. Despite the reality that a person is far more likely to be seriously or fatally injured by a disease prevented by vaccines than by a vaccine itself, there appears to be a trend towards increased refusal or delay of recommended vaccinations due to perceived safety concerns"
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a NITWIT. The risks of Not Vaccinating is far worse than Vaccinating, FOR ANY VACCINE.
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