[Kevin Henry-Seacoast]

Do you know math?
How does density change the same “per 100,000” number? I mean common man.

Let me help you with the stats/math as this seems really hard for you to figure out.

More densely populated areas have higher cases due to population and spread. The death rate is higher in some of these populated areas due to the demographic of those affected within the case load. If you have a dense area populated with younger and non-vulnerable people the 100,000 cases yields less death.
You can have an area that tests 100,000 people and 25% test positive with a lower death rate because of the demographic of the 100,000....younger and healthy.

Larger populations yield more spread and more cases. The death rate is determined by the underlying demographic of the people in the population.

The flip-side.... You can have a low population area with a high number of elderly or vulnerable have a higher death rate because of the demographic of those affected with less cases and/or spread.

[NoBiggie]

This is all Karen's fault

[Nunya]

Thank goodness for Kevin. It seems nearly the rest of you are helpless.

This will continue until there's a vaccine; until then it will continue thanks to those in denial about what it is and the seriousness.

The idea that COVID is over as the post title suggests (btw, it's not over) is a function of continued social distancing. If we were to put things back to the way they were before COVID, we'd be a lot worse off. Society benefits by taking it seriously - it's not about control - who is winning by "controlling" you to wear a mask? Are you "owning the libs" by your refusal? I will never understand the politicization of a virus.

[capaxess]

Thank goodness for Kevin. It seems nearly the rest of you are helpless.

This will continue until there's a vaccine; until then it will continue thanks to those in denial about what it is and the seriousness.

The idea that COVID is over as the post title suggests (btw, it's not over) is a function of continued social distancing. If we were to put things back to the way they were before COVID, we'd be a lot worse off. Society benefits by taking it seriously - it's not about control - who is winning by "controlling" you to wear a mask? Are you "owning the libs" by your refusal? I will never understand the politicization of a virus.

ugh, ok if you insist... Is there a vaccine for Avian flu? Hong Kong Flu? Sars? All those pandemics are Corona viruses - there hasn't been a vaccine for any of them, ever. Not because they didn't try but because they couldn't do it. So while you wait around for the vaccine I'll work on my immune system and maybe go on a diet. This isn't a Republican or Democrat "thing" people - everybody makes mistakes. Whichever political belief you ascribe to is IRRELEVANT to using common sense when making profoundly idiotic or even dangerous changes to your behavior regarding health and hygiene. Even worse is to "enforce" those changes with laws made by clueless bureaucrats and their supporters.

[SmartAdvanced]

If 100,000 people have COVID, they already have it, so now that they all already have it, the question is what happens after they have it.

Makes sense?

Density is only an argument BEFORE they get it. Not after they already have COVID.

[Kevin Henry-Seacoast]

If 100,000 people have COVID, they already have it, so now that they all already have it, the question is what happens after they have it.

Makes sense?

Density is only an argument BEFORE they get it. Not after they already have COVID.

Wrong! Density of population is critical either way. Density=Spread

If they have it they can spread it. If they don't they can be infected.

[Kevin Henry-Seacoast]

Another fun fact: Masks might not protect YOU from getting COVID because of mask type, but in most cases will keep you from spreading it to someone else no matter what type of mask.

[SmartAdvanced]

Me Seacoast :

Why are more people per 100 dying in Democrat run states?

[Chambo]

Me Seacoast :

Why are more people per 100 dying in Democrat run states?

Probably due to density of population....

But many red states are now the leaders in new cases...and all that southern fried junk they eat ain't helping matters

[fma123]

the Plandemic continues....Fear is winning

[capaxess]

the Plandemic continues....Fear is winning

No, actually it's not. That is, fear and it's merchants are still f&%king thing up which is the plan, but it's not working like they would hope. The first moves have been made and the assault on our personal liberty & standard of living is full-on. What I find encouraging are large pockets of like-minded individuals pushing back like they've been woken up from a deep sleep and just now noticing the buzzing sound around their head.

[abfunders]

If you wanted to see some interesting facts about COVID's spread based on political affiliation, someone actually went through the trouble to compile an article and the numbers to estimate GOP vs DNC in the wake of COVID:

https://apnews.com/7aa2fcf7955333834e01a7f9217c77d2

On the rest of it,I have one thing to say about this pandemic: DIAMOND PRINCESS.
There was a 20% infection rate on a ship with a population density higher than anywhere on earth, and an average age higher than anywhere on earth, and close to everyone was tested.

It appears, for whatever reason, that there's a real burnout of the virus at 20% of the population being infected. The deaths in Europe is likely due to the average age of the 20% of the population who is getting infected, and the USA deaths are likely due to poor health / obesity.

https://twitter.com/MLevitt_NP2013
https://twitter.com/mlevitt_np2013/s...025600?lang=en

We're looking at about 220,000 "excess" deaths in the USA from previous years when this burns out. It's just taking a long time to get around the USA because of the size of the country, both natural lack of movement (how often to people travel cross-country?), fear of going outside, lockdowns (which hurt more than solve), it being summer. and don't forget.... those who wear masks are also help slow the spread. However, it's now a question about the vulnerable populations.

At a 20% infection rate of COVID, with the other 40-50% of the people with antibodies, or genetically immune, or who have T-cell memories from another coronavirus they had, that's herd immunity. That will come far before a vaccine.

Burn-out will happen pretty soon in the USA. It happened everywhere else, and despite it being the summer, it's still going around, so why would winter be worse?

I'm optimistic.

[Kevin Henry-Seacoast]

Those refrigerator trucks parked behind hospitals are not there to make deliveries.....

[abfunders]

Europe and China - done
What we have now is a #casedemic
https://twitter.com/hashtag/Casedemic?src=hashtag_click

https://twitter.com/steph_bernard69/...053633/photo/1
https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/statu...76086413103109

USA? Because of how the states are separated, it's done in NY/NJ. The rest of the country? Almost there.

[fin4all]

Europe and China - done
What we have now is a #casedemic
https://twitter.com/hashtag/Casedemic?src=hashtag_click

https://twitter.com/steph_bernard69/...053633/photo/1
https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/statu...76086413103109

USA? Because of how the states are separated, it's done in NY/NJ. The rest of the country? Almost there.

whats done in europe and china ? do you know see whats happening in Spain ?

[abfunders]

whats done in europe and china ? do you know see whats happening in Spain ?

Spain? The media is crazy and obsessed, that's what's happening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwlkumcRf6w

[abfunders]

https://twitter.com/Drpeprchick/stat...452352/photo/1
EfUiNDhWAAElERo.jpg

[abfunders]

How governments handle #COVID:

(1) Exaggerate the risk
(2) Create mass fear
(3) Gain control
(4) Pacify with masks
(5) Virus starts to go away
(6) Create more fear with case reporting
(7) Regain control
(8) Pacify with hopes for a vaccine
(9) Virus ends, and people forget...

[Kevin Henry-Seacoast]

I can't believe that this has been going on for 6 months and people still don't get what this virus is and how it spreads. It is probably THE biggest reason it is not contained in the US.

[Yankeeman07]

I can't believe that this has been going on for 6 months and people still don't get what this virus is and how it spreads. It is probably THE biggest reason it is not contained in the US.

It has been going on for nearly 9 months. Covid-19 is a serious cold/flu/virus (whatever name you want to use) - A person will be very sick for 2 weeks + ,
then another 2 weeks to recover. Then back to living and work/play.

The latest from the CDC - makes sense out of the latest GUIDELINES!

If you have been in close contact (within 6 feet) of a person with a COVID-19 infection for at least 15 minutes but do not have symptoms: You do not necessarily need a test unless you are a vulnerable individual or your health care provider or State or local public health officials recommend you take one.


Solution for all: Turn off CNN - stop listening to all the people claiming the world is ending - and get on with life.

If you get sick, stay home, drink plenty of fluids, have a comfortable pillow (you will be sleeping a lot) - see you in 3 weeks.

[Kevin Henry-Seacoast]

Ummm... I don't get my information about COVID from CNN. I actually get it from healthcare professionals that are working on the front line. I think I will continue with the precautions I have been taking by listening to them. Perhaps more should do the same and we can get back to a normal life/economy quicker. This will not be over in 3 weeks so you can go back to work/play.

[rhum2016]

This whole thread is a sample of why we are at 180k dead going to 300k by end of year.

We arent sweden, we dont have the same behaviors or setups. no country has the same result as another with the same policies.
FDA just fired 2 people cause of the poor job they did, CDC backtracking on testing changes to asymptomatic, etc...
Herd immunity strategy would result in a 1 million deaths.

[Yankeeman07]

If you have any belief in numbers

17,000,000 have recovered world-wide.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...=homeAdvegas1?

Go back in history - 2008/2009 - How did the H1N1 flu end? or supposedly end?

[SmartAdvanced]

COVID is a sad virus that turned into a myth.

Fact is masks don’t help (because in the end look at the numbers)
Social distancing/ lockdown/ shutdown doesn’t help (did it help? Didn’t we shut down?)

Cat is out of the bag, on the ship, ship has sailed.

Now please stay safe, and if you’re sick make sure the hospital staff doesn’t kill you (due to crazy idiotic hype and CNN myths).

It is what it is! Unfortunately

[abfunders]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c....htm#dashboard
The USA has brought its excess death rate for August 25 in the negative territory!
Can we please now focus on saving people's mental health and send kids back to school like normal and get PCR testing to be less sensitive and more accurate to focus ONLY on those who are a risk to infect others?