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When are we going to hear the reasonable people come out and say that COVID is finished in NY/NJ area?
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Lock downs didn't solve anything. Compare Sweden to Denmark. If we have had leadership in this country, we might have gone Sweden, but we have some who are blabbers who are fear-mongering and others who are trying to fight nature and win. France/Italy/Germany/England/UK, the story is finished if you measure based on the only thing that matters: excess death than is expected. But they had to go through a lock down, and they're continuing to imagine that a lock down could be a possibility in the winter.

In the USA, nobody takes anything seriously due to lack of leadership.

When this is over in the USA (which appears to be ... it's finishing up progressing around the states still), the question is will the people of the USA believe that it's safe again, or will COVID feel like the eternal death sentence due to social media's portrayal?

I wanted to add some hope to the boards here, maybe there are some people who will shower our success with trolling and endless depression (Scott?), but we will get over this faster IF people will follow data scientists and not news (or even doctors).

The lock downs and mask shaming have very little if anything to do with COVID-19 much less with health. It's all about control and how much tyranny we'll accept before resisting. The data from non-lock down countries/states is irrefutable: we didn't need to destroy the economy in order to deal with this pandemic which has proven all Computer Modeling spectacularly wrong and which in the end is no worse in terms of deaths that the 1958 or 1969 coronavirus pandemics both of which were worse; we didn't destroy all businesses because of those either. The choice is becoming very clear - Liberty or tyranny. Anyone who still believes they can remain free without a fight isn't paying attention.