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04-27-2020, 02:28 PM #1
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Who wants our PPP applications?
We're generating 50-100 PPP applications a day through our website. Most are complete with payroll documents, and we have a full sales team working stips, etc. We just don't have anywhere to send them. We don't have a network of direct SBA lenders and none of the brokers we've contacted thus far can handle the volume.
We're looking to work with a direct SBA lender, or if necessary we'll co-broker if you have a solid network of direct SBA lenders. Ideally, anyone we partner with will have a robust technology stack and processing team capable of handling our volume. We can set up direct API submissions right from our system into yours.
PM me if you are ready to go.
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04-27-2020, 02:57 PM #2
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call a fintech the money will be gone very soon.
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04-27-2020, 03:32 PM #3
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PPP Applications cannot be handled via "Brokers" and I have doubts anyone should even be using 3rd party so-called FinTech Companies that claim they will submit PPP Applications.
The SBA has already posted on their web site , they are processing applications "in the queue on a first come, first-served basis." Also, many banks have also posted on their web sites, "new applications are NOT being accepted"
https://www.sba.gov/page/coronavirus...loan-resources
There are 2 options that are available if you are seeking an opportunity to monetize your data.
SBA 7(a) Loans - Micro Loans and SBA Disaster Relief Loans :
https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs...ba-debt-relief
I'm not aware of any SBA Lenders that are processing Micro Loans (maybe someone else on this forum can provide a lead) - The SBA Bank I rep for is accepting $>350K up to $5 Million.
Working Capital Loans - 10 year term @ 6% (estimated)
Commercial Real Estate - 25 Year Term @ Prime + up to 2.75% depending on file, loan size, etc.
You welcome to call me to discuss.Dave Lambert, Business Development
dave@fcbankcard.com
Merchant Services Consultant
High Risk Merchant Payment Solutions
SBA 7(a) Loans & Short-Term Funding
T/VM: 727-291-7890
Office: 727-233-1111
Skype: fc-financial
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04-27-2020, 03:47 PM #4
Who can be an agent? An agent is an authorized representative and can be:
• An attorney;
• An accountant;
• A consultant;
• Someone who prepares an applicant’s application for financial assistance and is
employed and compensated by the applicant;
• Someone who assists a lender with originating, disbursing, servicing, liquidating, or
litigating SBA loans;
• A loan broker; or
• Any other individual or entity representing an applicant by conducting business with the
SBA.
Treasury Lender Information Fact Sheet PDF LINK
Make sure you guys are actually reading the rules about this stuff before you go messing with it.
And just a piece of advise for anyone out there that thinks they're going to go down this road and get rich - that link has info on lender and agent compensation.
DO NOT "PSF" the client otherwise you're opening yourself up to a world of hurt.
Just thought I'd share since people in the MCA space think they can just do anything and rarely pay attention to actual regulations.
Anthony Diamond
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04-27-2020, 04:01 PM #5
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In real life, PPP applications cannot be handled by "Brokers" since they do not have a platform to submit
them to a SBA Bank or SBA Authorized Lender- and I'm including the so-called 3rd party FinTech that are telling merchants they will accept applications.
IMO, this new round of funding will be closed by the end of the week with the amount of applications already in the pipeline.
Brokers are spinning their wheels.Dave Lambert, Business Development
dave@fcbankcard.com
Merchant Services Consultant
High Risk Merchant Payment Solutions
SBA 7(a) Loans & Short-Term Funding
T/VM: 727-291-7890
Office: 727-233-1111
Skype: fc-financial
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04-27-2020, 04:06 PM #6
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04-28-2020, 04:13 AM #7
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04-28-2020, 08:53 AM #8
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Michael - Sent you an email
Dave Lambert, Business Development
dave@fcbankcard.com
Merchant Services Consultant
High Risk Merchant Payment Solutions
SBA 7(a) Loans & Short-Term Funding
T/VM: 727-291-7890
Office: 727-233-1111
Skype: fc-financial
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04-27-2020, 04:17 PM #9
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and an article today said bankers are hitting their refresh button every 15 minutes as the systems aren't working.
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04-27-2020, 04:54 PM #10
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Why would you be advertising to accept ppp applications, if you do not even have a partner bank or fintech to submit the files? There is a good chance there are 10-30 businesses that are trusting you and not submitting them to their bank. Now they are guaranteed to get nothing.
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04-27-2020, 09:39 PM #11
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Does anyone know what level the SBA underwrites the bank/lender submission for the PPP?
Merchant of mine said that his bank approved all the docs he sent in and confirmed they submitted to SBA, he asked me do I know if the SBA does additional UW on the submission or do they rely on the bank/lender to do that and basically just auto approve it once it hits their system or do they re underwrite the file before approval/decline?
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04-27-2020, 09:48 PM #12
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Ill take them. It was a bad struggle sending complete files at the beginning, Corp, LLC Sole Prop, Self Employed Independent Contractors. Much smoother now.
Last edited by inacio; 04-27-2020 at 09:52 PM.
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04-28-2020, 08:55 AM #13
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Dave Lambert, Business Development
dave@fcbankcard.com
Merchant Services Consultant
High Risk Merchant Payment Solutions
SBA 7(a) Loans & Short-Term Funding
T/VM: 727-291-7890
Office: 727-233-1111
Skype: fc-financial
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04-28-2020, 10:06 AM #14
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IvyLender or send them yourself
https://www.ivylender.app/s/?vLeadSo...naciodomniguez
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04-28-2020, 10:50 AM #15
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04-28-2020, 12:33 PM #16
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That page is a landing page for someone that is using Sales Force plus there is an error in the coding:
https://www.ivylender.app/s/?vLeadSo...naciodomniguez
We can't launch this flow because of a variable error. Send this error message to your admin. The value null is being provided for variable vLeadSource but isn't compatible with the variable's data type (String). Check the places where you implemented the flow ‒ such as through a Lightning page or a custom button ‒ and make sure that all provided values are compatible with the variables' data types.
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BTW: No need for any merchant to use a 3rd party Broker to submit an EIDL -
SBA is unable to accept new applications at this time for the Economic Injury Disaster Loan (EIDL)-COVID-19 related assistance program (including EIDL Advances) based on available appropriations funding.
Applicants who have already submitted their applications will continue to be processed on a first-come, first-served basis.
https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs...rgency-advance
Last edited by Yankeeman07; 04-28-2020 at 04:31 PM.
Dave Lambert, Business Development
dave@fcbankcard.com
Merchant Services Consultant
High Risk Merchant Payment Solutions
SBA 7(a) Loans & Short-Term Funding
T/VM: 727-291-7890
Office: 727-233-1111
Skype: fc-financial
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04-28-2020, 01:00 PM #17
Participating lenders have delegated authority. The SBA does not do any backend underwriting.
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04-28-2020, 11:37 AM #18
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Just spoke with a lawyer that applied with a bunch of random broker for ppp that sent an email of we will get you approved.This lawyer told me he does not think this late he will get it but he applied to sue when he does not.
Be careful on your wording making clear that you are not the new target of tcpa ........ that will take advantage of this
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04-28-2020, 11:41 AM #19
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Kevin Henry
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Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
561-850-9346
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1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
Boynton Beach, FL 33426
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04-28-2020, 11:42 AM #20
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04-28-2020, 03:20 PM #21
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if the supply chains allowed their brokers to participate in PPP like ODC, I think the broker community could have made some money during this. What we have seen is, the companies in our space have jumped on the opportunity but cutout their supply chain, the broker, from participating and helping their customers.
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04-28-2020, 06:09 PM #22
You either need to be a lender that's set up to process SBA applications or "broker" / "agent" of one directly (if not another form of an agent for the customer - cpa, lawyer, etc). I suppose any co-brokering would have to be worked out between the brokers, although I think it's frowned upon.
Only reason a lender would not accept brokered apps for PPP or the like would be because they have the volume, they have the process - they simply do not need / or can not handle more.
Otherwise, what's to stop a SBA lender taking on a broker with 100+ signed apps like the OP?
If it's just one clown of a broker/shop submitting random apps as they come in signed like MCA's - then I suppose it really doesn't make sense.Anthony Diamond
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04-28-2020, 06:35 PM #23
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04-29-2020, 03:03 PM #24
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eFinancial Tree is still funding!
We have not changed when we pay commissions to our partners!
Catherine Michail
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04-29-2020, 03:05 PM #25
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Under the PPP’s terms, lenders were to pay agents out of these origination fees, which range from five percent on loans up to $350,000 and three percent on loans between $350,000 and $2 million to one percent on loans between $2 million and $10 million, the suit says.
The lawsuit alleges that although banks were well aware that their customers were utilizing agents’ services in preparing PPP applications, some banks “outright refused to process” loan applications that refer to an agent. Other banks, the suit claims, have referred their customers to online application portals “intentionally designed” to prevent the customer from designating an agent.
so even though emails came out saying companies would not pay but agents sent in PPP apps to said companies, does this resolve them from paying...TBD
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