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    Who is this funder?

    I just received this "counter" from a merchant my rep is competing on. The sales rep sent the client this proposal, which smokes ours:



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    I am going with another company. Below is what they offered to me. I am only taking $100,000 from them which will be at the factor of 1.24.
    OPTIONS:
    Funded Amount Payback Factor Rate Payment Amount TERM
    $190,000.00 $235,600.00 1.24 $1,682/day 7 month term (140 daily payments M-F, excluding holidays)
    $190,000.00 $241,300.00 1.27 $1,508/day 8 month term (160 daily payments M-F, excluding holidays)
    $190,000.00 $243,200.00 1.28 $1,343/day 9 month term (180 daily payments M-F, excluding holidays)
    $190,000.00 $247,000.00 1.30 $1,235/day 10 month term (200 daily payments M-F, excluding holidays)
    $190,000.00 $250,800.00 1.32 $1,140/day 11 month term (220 daily payments M-F, excluding holidays)

    DEAL BENEFITS:

    • Strong early prepay
    • Add-ons available within 60 days after funding, renewal at 40%
    • Interest is forgiven at renewal (the unpaid interest), as long as you have stellar payment history
    • Won't affect personal credit. This will build business credit though since it is an advance
    • 3 hour funding time, no COJ needs to be notarized
    Processing fee including the closing costs is $999 for any of these options.
    Zachary Ramirez – CEO
    Phone: 562-391-7099
    Email: zach@zacharyjosephramirez.com

    1661 N. Raymond Ave #265
    Anaheim CA 92801

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    Looks like Snap no?
    Thank you,

    Lior Monus
    Business Development Manager
    CFG Merchant Solutions


    Direct: (646) 880-6764
    Cell: (516) 319-5826
    Fax: (646) 278-7322
    Lmonus@cfgms.com
    180 Maiden Lane New York, NY 10038

    www.cfgmerchantsolutions.com

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    Is this part true:

    • Interest is forgiven at renewal (the unpaid interest), as long as you have stellar payment history
    • Won't affect personal credit. This will build business credit though since it is an advance

    .... Only Breakout does unpaid interest forgiven at renewal.
    .... And who reports to business credit except Breakout?

    It's not Breakout, since they were offered "add-ons" and Breakout does do "add-ons."

    I think this a broker's dream of a plain old white vanilla MCA.

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    Zach!
    Marcus Clapman | Business Development | Cresthill Capital
    (High Commissions Payout Group)
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    Tel: 917-521-6528 | Fax: 212.671.1473
    Email: bizdev@cresthillcapital.com
    http://www.cresthillcapital.com

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    What's up guys! One thing to note is that this deal is also a 3rd position.
    Zachary Ramirez – CEO
    Phone: 562-391-7099
    Email: zach@zacharyjosephramirez.com

    1661 N. Raymond Ave #265
    Anaheim CA 92801

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmonus View Post
    Looks like Snap no?
    Those look like RAPID offers....especially the days in each term(they use the twenty day standard)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    What's up guys! One thing to note is that this deal is also a 3rd position.
    Are you saying that whoever made that offer is coming in 3rd ?
    Marcus Clapman | Business Development | Cresthill Capital
    (High Commissions Payout Group)
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    Tel: 917-521-6528 | Fax: 212.671.1473
    Email: bizdev@cresthillcapital.com
    http://www.cresthillcapital.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    What's up guys! One thing to note is that this deal is also a 3rd position.
    definitely not snap then.
    Thank you,

    Lior Monus
    Business Development Manager
    CFG Merchant Solutions


    Direct: (646) 880-6764
    Cell: (516) 319-5826
    Fax: (646) 278-7322
    Lmonus@cfgms.com
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    www.cfgmerchantsolutions.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    What's up guys! One thing to note is that this deal is also a 3rd position.
    I cant imagine those offers are real offers on a third.. Are you sure they arent paying off 1 or both of the open positions
    John Celifarco
    Managing Partner
    Horizon Funding Group

    3423 Ave S
    Brooklyn, NY 11234
    T: (347) 773-3990 | F: (718) 795-1990
    Linkedin: Profile
    Email: john@horizonfundinggroup.com

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    thats a mantis offer all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fin4all View Post
    thats a mantis offer all day.
    Before or after contracts are signed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fin4all View Post
    thats a mantis offer all day.
    Not it isn't.
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    Francis D. Decelle
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    Terrapin Financial Services, Inc
    Mobile - 917.797.9710
    Office - 718.766.5408
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    The Size Offer can deff be Mantis as we make (Many!) Millions per day in offers.
    Marcus Clapman | Business Development | Cresthill Capital
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    Email: bizdev@cresthillcapital.com
    http://www.cresthillcapital.com

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    GFE/Global?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaguru View Post
    The Size Offer can deff be Mantis as we make (Many!) Millions per day in offers.
    certainly not an offer from us...... way too small and way too expensive.
    Kevin Henry
    VP-Business Development
    Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
    561-850-9346
    Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
    1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
    Boynton Beach, FL 33426

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    I don't know but would love to get to know them lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Henry-Seacoast View Post
    certainly not an offer from us...... way too small and way too expensive.
    whats your avrg. funding size ...
    Marcus Clapman | Business Development | Cresthill Capital
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    Tel: 917-521-6528 | Fax: 212.671.1473
    Email: bizdev@cresthillcapital.com
    http://www.cresthillcapital.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaguru View Post
    whats your avrg. funding size ...
    Marcus-You know we are a public company and I cannot disclose the number.
    Kevin Henry
    VP-Business Development
    Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
    561-850-9346
    Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
    1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
    Boynton Beach, FL 33426

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaguru View Post
    whats your avrg. funding size ...
    10,000x yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaguru View Post
    whats your avrg. funding size ...
    Whats yours?
    Thank you,

    Lior Monus
    Business Development Manager
    CFG Merchant Solutions


    Direct: (646) 880-6764
    Cell: (516) 319-5826
    Fax: (646) 278-7322
    Lmonus@cfgms.com
    180 Maiden Lane New York, NY 10038

    www.cfgmerchantsolutions.com

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    What some don't realize..... We close a lot of factoring transactions every year in various sizes all over the country. We also do a lot of ABL. Tt does not stop at the initial funding.....we are funding those companies all year long. Example: IF we close a $5mil factoring facility for a 30Mil company. The initial closing/funding occurs and then we are funding (usually) weekly all of their invoices throughout the year. They are revolving facilities.....
    Kevin Henry
    VP-Business Development
    Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
    561-850-9346
    Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
    1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
    Boynton Beach, FL 33426

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    The "This will build business credit though since it is an advance" is misleading. 'since it is an advance' is not accurate, otherwise they are saying all advances would build business credit.

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    Sign the contracts. At that point underwriting will mysteriously find some issue that will cause the offer to be revised to $65,000 @1.49 over 80 payments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Henry-Seacoast View Post
    What some don't realize..... We close a lot of factoring transactions every year in various sizes all over the country. We also do a lot of ABL. Tt does not stop at the initial funding.....we are funding those companies all year long. Example: IF we close a $5mil factoring facility for a 30Mil company. The initial closing/funding occurs and then we are funding (usually) weekly all of their invoices throughout the year. They are revolving facilities.....
    Do your ISO's get paid on all rounds of funding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinancialSwissArmyKnife View Post
    Do your ISO's get paid on all rounds of funding?


    Oh, does he have your attention now?

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