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    Anyone who thinks that a COJ is the only way to collect really has no business being in this industry. There was an MCA industry long before COJ's and there will be one after. Data and underwriting will now matter more than ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Celifarco View Post
    the issue is less with what people will do moving foward, the bigger issue is that every NY COJ that is signed on active deals is now useless
    I think there was a Time Period to Transition, no?

    Also, Utah and PA COJs are a thing.

    Ive seen NY COJ with a Utah COJ on the same deal, just preparing for when NY finally says no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Celifarco View Post
    Anyone who thinks that a COJ is the only way to collect really has no business being in this industry. There was an MCA industry long before COJ's and there will be one after. Data and underwriting will now matter more than ever
    True. But 2nd 3rd 4th 9th Positions didn't exist in those times either.

    COJ's made it possible to fund Billions that would of never went out the door had they not existed.

  4. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Abe Kand View Post
    False. stop that you used to submit to me daily when I was at mr.advance and you loved it
    no YSC contracts here papi
    yeah, yeah

    mr a, citi, 24 cap, lifetime, fakefunder llc... all the same bull****

    shabbat shalom baby boi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peak Solutions LLC View Post
    yeah, yeah

    mr a, citi, 24 cap, lifetime, fakefunder llc... all the same bull****

    shabbat shalom baby boi
    we're not affiliated with any of those companies. Citi cap no longer exists its Mr.advance now. and the only correlation between the two is that they worked in the same building. They're separate companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abe Kand View Post
    we're not affiliated with any of those companies. Citi cap no longer exists its Mr.advance now. and the only correlation between the two is that they worked in the same building. They're separate companies.
    dude you a white label just live with it!

  7. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Cashman1 View Post
    dude you a white label just live with it!
    I love when kids get on here and start claiming that every new lender is a white label. Some people just have more money than you and can afford to fund and take the risks. Dont get me wrong brokering is great to, More power to my brokers out there. We just love to FUND!!
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    I rarely see COJs these days. The claim that “everyone still uses them” really just means “everyone that white labels YSC is still using them.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastFunding View Post
    I rarely see COJs these days. The claim that “everyone still uses them” really just means “everyone that white labels YSC is still using them.”
    I want some of the Paper your seeing to not have seen COJ's.

    Im in the weeds, lol.

    Nah, just depends on the Lender. All the Default and HIGH HIGH risk Guys are using COJs

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastFunding View Post
    I rarely see COJs these days. The claim that “everyone still uses them” really just means “everyone that white labels YSC is still using them.”
    True, most of the B and C paper funders have already stopped using them and whoever still is was just waiting for this to be signed before they finally stopped completely. Unless you business model is all super high risk deals I wouldn't expect to see many coj's moving forward
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abe Kand View Post
    I love when kids get on here and start claiming that every new lender is a white label. Some people just have more money than you and can afford to fund and take the risks. Dont get me wrong brokering is great to, More power to my brokers out there. We just love to FUND!!
    You mean the kid who actually did the backround before talking.

    Why is the one COJ u filed affidavit under a different companies CEO.

    Why have you been calling every high risk lender begging them to white label for you!

    Ur a kid welcome to reality, enjoy mommy’s basement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abe Kand View Post
    That might just happen. No other real means of collecting without use of COJ
    No there are alot of other LEGAL ways, you just seem to be new to the industry. do some homework, there are other, maybe better ways.
    Last edited by BillionzandBillionz; 08-31-2019 at 03:11 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan $ View Post
    I want some of the Paper your seeing to not have seen COJ's.

    Im in the weeds, lol.

    Nah, just depends on the Lender. All the Default and HIGH HIGH risk Guys are using COJs
    You attract people with your same energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peak Solutions LLC View Post
    gave you a shot with one ****ty deal, you gave us a ysc contract

    poser
    You always seem to be on here complaining about everyone else, never have anything good to say about anyone.

    Maybe you should look in the mirror. You sound like a crappy iso that makes no money and comes on here to complain about better and bigger men than you

    Go release your frustrations somewhere else you clown.

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    COJ's aren't enforceable in Florida, haven't been for awhile.

    Quote Originally Posted by J.Celifarco View Post
    the issue is less with what people will do moving foward, the bigger issue is that every NY COJ that is signed on active deals is now useless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abe Kand View Post
    False. stop that you used to submit to me daily when I was at mr.advance and you loved it
    no YSC contracts here papi
    I mean Mr Advance white labels YSC all dayyyyyyy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cashman1 View Post
    You mean the kid who actually did the backround before talking.

    Why is the one COJ u filed affidavit under a different companies CEO.

    Why have you been calling every high risk lender begging them to white label for you!

    Ur a kid welcome to reality, enjoy mommy’s basement!
    mommys basement? LOL why don't you have a signature on your responses with an actual office address.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freeprocessing View Post
    I mean Mr Advance white labels YSC all dayyyyyyy
    Mr Advance, I don't know if they always white label, but there is a weird ISO manager there Jayson Yunason, he tried to hit on me at the broker fair, and told me not to tell anyone. He claimed he also worked for other big funds

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    I wasn’t hitting on you, you’re beat lmfaoooo I just wanted your business....
    but I guess you are a “direct lender”
    And yes I remember exactly who you are girl from snap advance- you were actually hitting on my boy- and all the cash advance you were talking was some basic stuff- when I pitch Isos I actually keep them interested so I left you guys alone haha to chat about your bs while I was getting some real business

    Referencing the other “funds” I’ve worked for- I used to intern at a hedge fund while I was in college

    -Jayson Yunason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayson Yunason View Post
    I wasn’t hitting on you, you’re beat lmfaoooo I just wanted your business....
    but I guess you are a “direct lender”
    And yes I remember exactly who you are girl from snap advance- you were actually hitting on my boy- and all the cash advance you were talking was some basic stuff- when I pitch Isos I actually keep them interested so I left you guys alone haha to chat about your bs while I was getting some real business

    Referencing the other “funds” I’ve worked for- I used to intern at a hedge fund while I was in college

    -Jayson Yunason
    So it’s true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayson Yunason View Post
    I wasn’t hitting on you, you’re beat lmfaoooo I just wanted your business....
    but I guess you are a “direct lender”
    And yes I remember exactly who you are girl from snap advance- you were actually hitting on my boy- and all the cash advance you were talking was some basic stuff- when I pitch Isos I actually keep them interested so I left you guys alone haha to chat about your bs while I was getting some real business

    Referencing the other “funds” I’ve worked for- I used to intern at a hedge fund while I was in college

    -Jayson Yunason
    I remember this exact conversation and everything about it, I only have two issues with your recollection of this story:

    1) I don't work at Snap Advance
    2) I'm not a girl

    You must have had a few too many that night bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillionzandBillionz View Post
    I remember this exact conversation and everything about it, I only have two issues with your recollection of this story:

    1) I don't work at Snap Advance
    2) I'm not a girl

    You must have had a few too many that night bud.
    2019 you are whatever you identify as . best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael I View Post
    2019 you are whatever you identify as . best of luck
    Thanks but i wore a full suit lol, there was no question about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillionzandBillionz View Post
    Thanks but i wore a full suit lol, there was no question about that
    half suit would of got you remembered

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