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    Personally, if i see PAR or Complete in the deal i decline it right away. I don't want a deal that was or is associated with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmonus View Post
    Personally, if i see PAR or Complete in the deal i decline it right away. I don't want a deal that was or is associated with them.
    Lior you dont have the funding capacity to offer funding amounts that Par offers? What is the max funding amount for CFG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stackcity_4208 View Post
    Lior you dont have the funding capacity to offer funding amounts that Par offers? What is the max funding amount for CFG?
    Funding Capacity to compete with Par? The majority of their fundings are Reverse consolidations so no, i cant do that. Biggest deal ive personally funded was 375k and it was for an iso i do over 30 units per month with. So, the iso who signed up yesterday wont get the same pricing.

    I personally dont favor the big whales, ide rather close a bunch of 50-100k deals than one 500k whale. Too much exposure on one file...
    Last edited by Lmonus; 08-28-2019 at 03:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmonus View Post
    Funding Capacity to compete with Par? The majority of their fundings are Reverse consolidations so no, i cant do that. Biggest deal ive personally funded was 375k and it was for an iso i do over 30 units per month with. So, the iso who signed up yesterday wont get the same pricing.

    I personally dont favor the big whales, ide rather close a bunch of 50-100k deals than one 500k whale. Too much exposure on one file...
    So your dollar amount varies based on how many submissions you receive from an ISO/How much you fund with them?
    Strange strategy. I usually give all my ISO's the max amount a deal deserves regardless of volume.
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    ABE KAND
    Lifetime Funding
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    Direct: (516) 604-0602
    Address: 585 Stewart Ave Suite L90 Garden City, NY 11530
    Website: www.Lifetimefundingllc.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abe Kand View Post
    So your dollar amount varies based on how many submissions you receive from an ISO/How much you fund with them?
    Strange strategy. I usually give all my ISO's the max amount a deal deserves regardless of volume.
    No, all im saying is that im not going to give a 300k offer to an iso i havent closed a door with. How do i know they wont stack me the next day? Then again a week later and then a reverse. What will they do when the merchant needs more money? What are they going to do when the merchant needs relief? Ask me to lower payments, or send to a debt restructure place?
    Last edited by Lmonus; 08-28-2019 at 05:24 PM.
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    Business Development Manager
    CFG Merchant Solutions


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmonus View Post
    No, all im saying is that im not going to give a 300k offer to an iso i havent closed a door with. How do i know they wont stack me the next day? Then again a week later and then a reverse. What will they do when the merchant needs more money? What are they going to do when the merchant needs relief? Ask me to lower payments, or send to a debt restructure place?
    Solid answer and solid reasoning.
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    ABE KAND
    Lifetime Funding
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    Direct: (516) 604-0602
    Address: 585 Stewart Ave Suite L90 Garden City, NY 11530
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmonus View Post
    No, all im saying is that im not going to give a 300k offer to an iso i havent closed a door with. How do i know they wont stack me the next day? Then again a week later and then a reverse. What will they do when the merchant needs more money? What are they going to do when the merchant needs relief? Ask me to lower payments, or send to a debt restructure place?
    dude you're not even and underwriter, cfg funds behind par

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abe Kand View Post
    So your dollar amount varies based on how many submissions you receive from an ISO/How much you fund with them?
    Strange strategy. I usually give all my ISO's the max amount a deal deserves regardless of volume.
    CITI Capital and your brother or cousin Michael had a strange strategy of backdooring ISO's applications!

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    Quote Originally Posted by channin19 View Post
    CITI Capital and your brother or cousin Michael had a strange strategy of backdooring ISO's applications!
    Yikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmonus View Post
    Funding Capacity to compete with Par? The majority of their fundings are Reverse consolidations so no, i cant do that. Biggest deal ive personally funded was 375k and it was for an iso i do over 30 units per month with. So, the iso who signed up yesterday wont get the same pricing.

    I personally dont favor the big whales, ide rather close a bunch of 50-100k deals than one 500k whale. Too much exposure on one file...
    Wrong Par majority is not just Reverse consolidations. So, this is CFG/LIOR standard operating procedures. Come on dailyfunder and cause controversy about Funders in the space, in an attempt to draw iso's to send you submissions. I know alot of iso's who work with you Lior and the max capacity of funding if you lucky is 100k or less. You can NOT compete with PAR in any way shape or form. Not with funding amounts or terms?

    I ll ask you this Lior, what is your max term? (i already know the answer as I know CFG box)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stackcity_4208 View Post
    Wrong Par majority is not just Reverse consolidations. So, this is CFG/LIOR standard operating procedures. Come on dailyfunder and cause controversy about Funders in the space, in an attempt to draw iso's to send you submissions. I know alot of iso's who work with you Lior and the max capacity of funding if you lucky is 100k or less. You can NOT compete with PAR in any way shape or form. Not with funding amounts or terms?

    I ll ask you this Lior, what is your max term? (i already know the answer as I know CFG box)

    180 Maiden Lane
    that used to be John Braun office address(google it)
    You know nothing about us and your responses show. John Brauns address was on John Street, not Maiden... so nice try. (We also just moved here last year and he was in jail by then) Longest deal ive done is 165 days. I get offers and terms other reps here don't get because the volume i bring is probably 4 times greater than theirs & syndicate in almost every deal i fund. It matters who your rep is.

    Im not causing controversy and as much as more submissions are great, i rarely market for more business... Our product speaks for itself so ISO's are the ones calling us now days. You on the other hand are just a pretend funder who cant answer any questions in regards to YOUR product, YOUR funding, YOUR commission, YOUR everything. Your only responses are "Pm Me" and when ISO's call BS on your iso agreement you have nothing to say. I dont start drama, i just call BS when i see it and you are full of it.

    You might fool the small guy, but the real players in the space can tell if you are real or fake with one response.
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    Lior Monus
    Business Development Manager
    CFG Merchant Solutions


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmonus View Post
    You know nothing about us and your responses show. John Brauns address was on John Street, not Maiden... so nice try. (We also just moved here last year and he was in jail by then) Longest deal ive done is 165 days. I get offers and terms other reps here don't get because the volume i bring is probably 4 times greater than theirs & syndicate in almost every deal i fund. It matters who your rep is.

    Im not causing controversy and as much as more submissions are great, i rarely market for more business... Our product speaks for itself so ISO's are the ones calling us now days. You on the other hand are just a pretend funder who cant answer any questions in regards to YOUR product, YOUR funding, YOUR commission, YOUR everything. Your only responses are "Pm Me" and when ISO's call BS on your iso agreement you have nothing to say. I dont start drama, i just call BS when i see it and you are full of it.

    You might fool the small guy, but the real players in the space can tell if you are real or fake with one response.
    Lior look at your history of posts. and I challenge anyone to do so. Read your posts over and over again. You like to challenge Marcus Clapman on this forum, but you are just as bad. Give me a break. I say again you can not compete with Par. CFG money is not long enough!!!


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    We used to work with CFG , and i can say 100% that cfg cant touch Par, they are not even in the same league, lior get back to your PEE WEE game and let the men handle the real business.
    peak solutions averaged 2 million in new deals per month with par alone! I own multiple iso shops and have worked with cfg for over 5 years, we've never funder over 200k with them in a month.
    THERE IS NO COMPETITION, NO ONE CAN COMPETE WITH JIMMY. ESPECIALLY NOT THE PEE WEE guys like mantis/CFG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmonus View Post
    You know nothing about us and your responses show. John Brauns address was on John Street, not Maiden... so nice try. (We also just moved here last year and he was in jail by then) Longest deal ive done is 165 days. I get offers and terms other reps here don't get because the volume i bring is probably 4 times greater than theirs & syndicate in almost every deal i fund. It matters who your rep is.

    Im not causing controversy and as much as more submissions are great, i rarely market for more business... Our product speaks for itself so ISO's are the ones calling us now days. You on the other hand are just a pretend funder who cant answer any questions in regards to YOUR product, YOUR funding, YOUR commission, YOUR everything. Your only responses are "Pm Me" and when ISO's call BS on your iso agreement you have nothing to say. I dont start drama, i just call BS when i see it and you are full of it.

    You might fool the small guy, but the real players in the space can tell if you are real or fake with one response.
    Hey Lior

    You are a stacker, bottom line. You can not compete with 1st position or 2nd or 3rd... Anyone sending those files to you just does not know proper deal placement. And you say fake funder you clown, no iso relations. And a brutally honest one, not a fluff & sketch master like you. Not a basher on the forums to get business like you. I know alot of isos who cant stand you and dont submit to CFG because of you. Maybe the higher ups should know? Shall I start naming them one by one. Shall I start pasting your responses to these isos? Let me know. I will put you on blast asap!!! You are a clown for attacking another funder, and you are a funder. Maybe CFG C Class Executives need to review your behavior an your email sent folder!!! Sorry its end of month and i am busy unlike you!! Clown

    Clown Funding Group alias Lior


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    Quote Originally Posted by stackcity_4208 View Post
    Wrong Par majority is not just Reverse consolidations. So, this is CFG/LIOR standard operating procedures. Come on dailyfunder and cause controversy about Funders in the space, in an attempt to draw iso's to send you submissions. I know alot of iso's who work with you Lior and the max capacity of funding if you lucky is 100k or less. You can NOT compete with PAR in any way shape or form. Not with funding amounts or terms?

    I ll ask you this Lior, what is your max term? (i already know the answer as I know CFG box)

    180 Maiden Lane
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    Par actually has decent decent Buy Rates... and their Collateral Products are pretty sweet too.

    I wouldnt say the majority of their lending are reverses, but they definitely love huge reverses. Not many lenders will do a 1 Million dollar reverse (and pay upfront)

    Their reputation could definitely use some cleaning up.

    Lior is the **** too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan $ View Post
    Par actually has decent decent Buy Rates... and their Collateral Products are pretty sweet too.

    I wouldnt say the majority of their lending are reverses, but they definitely love huge reverses. Not many lenders will do a 1 Million dollar reverse (and pay upfront)

    Their reputation could definitely use some cleaning up.

    Lior is the **** too!
    Par definitely does some crazy things with their offers, but from my understanding their reverses are the big piece of ammo they have - Their MCA offers are fair from what i see in banks, but pretty easy to beat if a deals solid enough.

    Lets just say their offers are prettier than their reputation. I heard some horrifying things when they first came about into our space.
    Thank you,

    Lior Monus
    Business Development Manager
    CFG Merchant Solutions


    Direct: (646) 880-6764
    Cell: (516) 319-5826
    Fax: (646) 278-7322
    Lmonus@cfgms.com
    180 Maiden Lane New York, NY 10038

    www.cfgmerchantsolutions.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmonus View Post
    Par definitely does some crazy things with their offers, but from my understanding their reverses are the big piece of ammo they have - Their MCA offers are fair from what i see in banks, but pretty easy to beat if a deals solid enough.

    Lets just say their offers are prettier than their reputation. I heard some horrifying things when they first came about into our space.
    Agreed

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