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    A new disgusting mca trend

    it is funny to me how these big & mighty A lenders preach how holy they are but they are starting to charge perfectly good paying merchants stacking fees.

    and we arent talking $295

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    All to often nobody bothers to read or understand their loan agreements, advance agreements, or invoice purchase agreements and then they are shocked why someone charges them a fee for doing something that was against and agreement.
    Some lenders have been ignoring the advance stacking for years. They know their client violated their agreement, but they don't want to upset the relationship so long as the client pays them back. Some are starting to drop the hammer on clients for violating loan agreements by throwing them into default on their agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey View Post
    it is funny to me how these big & mighty A lenders preach how holy they are but they are starting to charge perfectly good paying merchants stacking fees.

    and we arent talking $295
    that is nothing new . i find it funnier when stackers charge a stacking fee

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    Swift did that a lot back in the day

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey View Post
    it is funny to me how these big & mighty A lenders preach how holy they are but they are starting to charge perfectly good paying merchants stacking fees.

    and we arent talking $295
    why is that disgusting?

    the merchant is in violation of the contract

    the A paper lender is 100 percent in doing this

    because before you know it merchant will have 5 positions because of a scumbag broker and the A paper will be screwed

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey View Post
    it is funny to me how these big & mighty A lenders preach how holy they are but they are starting to charge perfectly good paying merchants stacking fees.

    and we arent talking $295
    $295 ? not $2995?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey View Post
    it is funny to me how these big & mighty A lenders preach how holy they are but they are starting to charge perfectly good paying merchants stacking fees.

    and we arent talking $295
    There is a NON-STACKING Clause in nearly every MCA Contract that I have read and a penalty that may be imposed,
    generally $2500.00 to $5,000.00
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    Quote Originally Posted by brokerCompany View Post
    Swift did that a lot back in the day
    yup it put a merchant of mine out of business . she got $7500 from them and took a 3k from someone else went back directly to them for renewal when the stack was fully paid off and they added 5k to her balance . merchant average was barely 10k

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokerCompany View Post
    Swift did that a lot back in the day
    yup...they charged 10% for stacking them. One merchant got ach'd 40k once I read when they found out he stacked them.

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    The no stacking agreement isn’t even a clause. It’s it’s own agreement usually that’s usually titled “No Stacking Agreement”. The language is pretty clear and they go over it during the funding call. So the merchants know what they’re getting into.

    Like Michael said above, it is funny when stackers have no stacking agreements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BROKER TIME View Post
    why is that disgusting?

    the merchant is in violation of the contract

    the A paper lender is 100 percent in doing this

    because before you know it merchant will have 5 positions because of a scumbag broker and the A paper will be screwed
    d-f paper do it, most knowing that merchant will need to stack to pay off the 1-3rd positions which start eating the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey View Post
    it is funny to me how these big & mighty A lenders preach how holy they are but they are starting to charge perfectly good paying merchants stacking fees.

    and we arent talking $295
    ive seen a 25k on many D lenders contracts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachip24 View Post
    yup...they charged 10% for stacking them. One merchant got ach'd 40k once I read when they found out he stacked them.
    ouch

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    Mca have done more damage then good

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    Quote Originally Posted by golf2014 View Post
    Mca have done more damage then good
    bye felicia. don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey View Post
    it is funny to me how these big & mighty A lenders preach how holy they are but they are starting to charge perfectly good paying merchants stacking fees.

    and we arent talking $295
    There are leverage considerations that ALL lenders / funders try to consider (if they're legit anyway). The agreement to advance or lend money to someone at a specified rate is in consideration of both parties following the terms of the agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeeman07 View Post
    There is a NON-STACKING Clause in nearly every MCA Contract that I have read and a penalty that may be imposed,
    generally $2500.00 to $5,000.00
    Usually the stacking fee isnt charged unless it affects the 1st position lender. Like as long as the merchant preforms they wont charge them, but if they miss payments and get in trouble then theyll charge the fee. Talk about kicking someone when they are down

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    Legal extortion

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    Quote Originally Posted by golf2014 View Post
    Legal extortion
    Or breach of contract. Whatever floats your boat.

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    ^ the # of breached mca contracts against that language is prob staggering if truth be told

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    I remember one funder who put a couple of merchants in default after they 'Stacked him'. in reality, the merchant simply renewed his 1st position and this funder was the stacker

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCAdude View Post
    I remember one funder who put a couple of merchants in default after they 'Stacked him'. in reality, the merchant simply renewed his 1st position and this funder was the stacker
    isnt that called a broker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCAdude View Post
    I remember one funder who put a couple of merchants in default after they 'Stacked him'. in reality, the merchant simply renewed his 1st position and this funder was the stacker
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davincinc View Post
    isnt that called a broker?
    No.

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