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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen37a View Post
    These people take money when its one of those ...take the money for payroll or they are out of business ( and they still may go out of business it's a blind educated guess )

    THEN when its 3 months down the road they are saying " i paid too much for it"

    tough ****

    You cant lend or fund into a very risky pool, people go under and then the ones who make it say...hey that cost too much
    again this has what to do with regulation.. They aren't regulating us because a % of our customers are ****bags. They are regulating us because we have gotten to big to stay in the shadows and when we had an opportunity to self regulate so that the states didnt step in we did nothing. Now we have to deal with what is being done and do everything in our power to mitigate the damage that is done
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Celifarco View Post
    again this has what to do with regulation.. They aren't regulating us because a % of our customers are ****bags. They are regulating us because we have gotten to big to stay in the shadows and when we had an opportunity to self regulate so that the states didnt step in we did nothing. Now we have to deal with what is being done and do everything in our power to mitigate the damage that is done
    kevin made a comment and I was answering him



    and what is had to do with regulation is

    if the rate goes DOWN Funders are going to fold...add in additional compliance costs and lawyers ( i said this 2000 times on these boards already)

    regulators are lawyers coming for you with the full power of the State and their deep pockets...you will never survive

    for anyone to have wished this on us was crazy

    if you do not understand this...that is not my concern( because you do not want to, you want to argue) . usually people have to climb up a ladder to see the view from the top

    nothing wrong with it...ive just seen alot more
    Last edited by Karen37a; 10-15-2018 at 04:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen37a View Post
    kevin made a comment and I was answering him



    and what is had to do with regulation is

    if the rate goes DOWN Funders are going to fold...add in additional compliance costs and lawyers ( i said this 2000 times on these boards already)

    regulators are lawyers coming for you with the full power of the State and their deep pockets...you will never survive

    for anyone to have wished this on us was crazy

    if you do not understand this...that is not my concern( because you do not want to, you want to argue) . usually people have to climb up a ladder to see the view from the top

    nothing wrong with it...ive just seen alot more
    How do you know you have seen more than anyone else on this board? I know you claim you have on a regular basis.

    I never said that rates are going down because of regulation in this tread. I said costs will go up if this is done on a state level and not federal. The cost will affect margins and in turn institutions will have to cut costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhenry0527 View Post
    How do you know you have seen more than anyone else on this board? I know you claim you have on a regular basis.

    I never said that rates are going down because of regulation in this tread. I said costs will go up if this is done on a state level and not federal. The cost will affect margins and in turn institutions will have to cut costs.

    I was taking to HIM ( John ) not you on that comment. Stop tag teaming the conversations as usual

    I said that Rates go down they are Capped ...usuary...and costs go up
    period the end

    you usually have 4 more people jump in at this point

    Address what I posted to you or nothing at all

    hese people take money when its one of those ...take the money for payroll or they are out of business ( and they still may go out of business it's a blind educated guess )

    THEN when its 3 months down the road they are saying " i paid too much for it"

    tough ****

    You cant lend or fund into a very risky pool, people go under and then the ones who make it say...hey that cost too much

    The rate has to be high enough to cover the defaults, operation expenses etc etc

    And I can promise you id never put 30 million on the line( unsecured ) to get 50k back after all is said and done

    You are chasing investors away
    West coast jump in "karen is talking to herself"


    ** I am off ...Advanced Funders know what I said is true and Venture Capital and hedge funds.. ask them
    Last edited by Karen37a; 10-15-2018 at 04:59 PM.

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