[mcaguru]

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300666421.html

This can be the beginning of one of the largest Hedge Funds scooping up some of our sector! they act different them most hedge funds..when they like a sector they have been known to acquire many others in that space! .... I think this can be just the start! (You heard this prediction here first!!)...

[Karen37a]

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300666421.html

This can be the beginning of one of the largest Hedge Funds scooping up some of our sector! they act different them most hedge funds..when they like a sector they have been known to acquire many others in that space! .... I think this can be just the start! (You heard this prediction here first!!)...

Or giving some Isos Money $$$$$$$$$$$ to syndicate or fund!

Bang Doody Frank

[Karen37a]

If hedge funds stepped in to give money to Isos.to syndicate..i think it would be with the covenants of being with "iso friendly" Funders (another prediction)

[mcaguru]

If hedge funds stepped in to give money to Isos.to syndicate..i think it would be with the covenants of being with "iso friendly" Funders (another prediction)

There are a few guys that offer capital to ISO's that have ability to syndicate on their deals ..Don't ask me who ..I don't engage in that area! my only point is... if ISO's are good and reliable they can get capital to syndicate.

[Karen37a]

There are a few guys that offer capital to ISO's that have ability to syndicate on their deals ..Don't ask me who ..I don't engage in that area! my only point is... if ISO's are good and reliable they can get capital to syndicate.

Not millions and millions....Some funders couldn't even get it... and it's very restrictive.

Funders when under for lack of capital ...example Deal s? couldn't raise 3 million?

I am aware of some of the Ponzi schemes get money in, never pay investors back...I see the lawsuits.

* this is a small small small minority

This can bring in big money...we are dwarfed by pay pal, Amex, etc...


This is one of those penguins over the waterfall...get $$$ and stay loyal to your Investor/Funder/merchant/broker/yourself ..all at the same time




This was when Bernard Bernake the Former Fed chair denied on refinancing his home

http://time.com/money/3457832/former...ance-his-home/

[Karen37a]

The more money there is...the cost of money goes down...rate goes down..same profit

I do understand my views cut into some peoples agenda...I've been attacked long enough for them.

In the end, it's "profit" that matters

Have a great weekend

[Karen37a]

Marcus...you are one of the iso friendly people so I am not debating you.

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I just wanted to post John Mcafee...the crypto expert.

he said he was going to eat his own D*ck on National Tv...I was bringing the relish...then I said count me out because i know how crazy he is lol

here you go...worse than "um foo foo" in the first call center and the bangledshish male porn star lead broker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsRW2hOJBL8

I am at a loss for words LOOL

[Karen37a]

The problem with price speculators in Bitcoin is how it shifts the purpose of the technology to something that closely resembles a Ponzi scheme, and by extension, another form of dot com bubble and tulip mania

If the primary use for Bitcoin is only through price speculation, trading and waiting for appreciation profits, there is almost no way to grow the industry organically or get others involved in crypto on an individual basis without actually participating in a Ponzi-like model.

Most market watchers do not rule out another price run-up but this is likely to be the random movement of pure speculation or market manipulation rather than anything else.


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The problem with discussion on bitcoin was that any time anyone spoke of it they did not speak in the terms of being a currency 1 for 1...It was always about the mass speculation of price rising...clue as to the viabilty.

Now that the hype over this is over...money is moving back into other markets ....like cash advance

[Jess]

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300666421.html

This can be the beginning of one of the largest Hedge Funds scooping up some of our sector! they act different them most hedge funds..when they like a sector they have been known to acquire many others in that space! .... I think this can be just the start! (You heard this prediction here first!!)...

Smart smart deal-Channel has the closest to proprietary deal flow of any company in the space. Likely that portfolio performs very well with limited stacking. Challenge will be to grow-Elliott isn't your run of the mill PE or Credit fund. They are smart AF. I wonder if they are going to try to low ball some existing funders with acquisition offers. They know via the Channel investment that the value is created by acquisition. Don't think they will place a high enterprise value on ISO driven acquisition funders. I know two firms owned by PE firms are looking for exits.

[Karen37a]

Smart smart deal-Channel has the closest to proprietary deal flow of any company in the space. Likely that portfolio performs very well with limited stacking. Challenge will be to grow-Elliott isn't your run of the mill PE or Credit fund. They are smart AF. I wonder if they are going to try to low ball some existing funders with acquisition offers. They know via the Channel investment that the value is created by acquisition. Don't think they will place a high enterprise value on ISO driven acquisition funders. I know two firms owned by PE firms are looking for exits.

Depends on the Iso and the models.....there is something called a "captive Iso" as opposed to freelance ones. And the same can be said for referal models...at any time they can decide to take the referals away or regulation steps in..then you are really doomed

There are Renewal books that are owned by the Funder ...not the iso

[Karen37a]

In life insurance. The Iso...General Agent ( branch manager) goes thru the Master General Agent ( owner and supervisors of the branches territories they create) the MGA is direct to the financial entity

They ( MGAs) are independent and some have contracts that stipulate they own the book of business and the agents/brokers after 5-7 years they can sell at a discount.( back to the company or another mga) **The Direct Financial company still owns the business under the capitve agreement or non compete tortious interference so its "co-owned"

Those are the ones who are like outside isos...took on the costs of everything, leads, training, recruiting, hiring, sales and retention

You only reach this level thru production numbers


When you sell you wind up outside your normal territories ( states) non compete agreements are in place for about 5-10 years...times finally up for me

[mcaguru]

Smart smart deal-Channel has the closest to proprietary deal flow of any company in the space. Likely that portfolio performs very well with limited stacking. Challenge will be to grow-Elliott isn't your run of the mill PE or Credit fund. They are smart AF. I wonder if they are going to try to low ball some existing funders with acquisition offers. They know via the Channel investment that the value is created by acquisition. Don't think they will place a high enterprise value on ISO driven acquisition funders. I know two firms owned by PE firms are looking for exits.

They are very Smart!! Back in 2007 I met Jesse Cohn who is probally one of the main guys at E.M. (back than Not sure he was even 30 years old) regarding investing in MCA... they like interesting high yield ventures ..I believe at one point they were the largest financiers of Hollywood films (they were e first to get paid off the top) they did it trough backing Ryan Kavanaugh who at one point was the king of capital for film producers.

[mcaguru]

Marcus...you are one of the iso friendly people so I am not debating you.

That is very kind of you Karen!

[Jess]

They are very Smart!! Back in 2007 I met Jesse Cohn who is probally one of the main guys at E.M. (back than Not sure he was even 30 years old) regarding investing in MCA... they like interesting high yield ventures ..I believe at one point they were the largest financiers of Hollywood films (they were e first to get paid off the top) they did it trough backing Ryan Kavanaugh who at one point was the king of capital for film producers.

Well Ryan Kavanaugh is not exactly the best example given relativity's purported fraud-(I thought it was Colbeck who was tight with him)-regardless good deal for them.

[mcaguru]

Well Ryan Kavanaugh is not exactly the best example given relativity's purported fraud-(I thought it was Colbeck who was tight with him)-regardless good deal for them.

they now love buying software related public companies and are doing the into the "advocating model" Carl icahn's game. btw at one point Ryan had a Billion $ net-worth.

[Karen37a]

Well Ryan Kavanaugh is not exactly the best example given relativity's purported fraud-(I thought it was Colbeck who was tight with him)-regardless good deal for them.

They were sued for fraudulent inducement by intentional misrepresentation and unjust enrichment.

Rich people never lose money graciously....they do not take it on the chin.; they almost always come swinging back ( sometimes in good faith, sometimes just because)


One of my main objections to regulation. They will use the regulatory system to back people to the wall.