[Karen37a]

Hey West Coast Funding.

1. What is your corp name? Because when I put "West Coast Funding" in to the CA secretary of state everything comes back dissolved for West Coast Funding Corp or West Coast Funding Group,etc.?
2. What state are you in? Are you even on the west coast or is that a ploy to throw people off?
3. Are you in good standing? How do your parents and siblings rate you as a person? Do you have any friends besides Facebook?

Let me ask you seriously, since you obviously make your living from the MCA world, do you sleep well at night when you help your clients stack themselves until they can't breathe?

And most of our clients are the ones who can't get another stack and have business credit, but have burned up their personal credit because brokers have gotten dozens of inquiries by shotgunning the client in the hopes to get a 6th position and make commission for rent and cigarette money. So again moron, nobody here is trying to steal clients or offer debt settlement. If you had the balls to call me and talk like a man you might make some money with me like other people are.

And obviously you did not read my first post where I told everyone that 'Lease Rebates Group" is a DBA and that we are incorporated under another name, and that you only get that name when your commission check is FedExed. But you and I won't be doing any business anyway because your mind is to small to sell anything but what you do now.

As for you Karen, I heard that you are out of Tampa. I am sure that they have some good mental health professionals down there who can help you resolve your childhood trauma issues which cause you to be disruptive and paranoid and socially dysfunctional. Best to you.

To the Admin of this forum, God bless you for dealing with some of the crackpots on here. I hope that I have not offended you by being so forthright with these idiots and by not disclosing the parent corp of Lease Rebates Group. Please contact Shannon known as SBF and she can even show you privately (the Admin) copies of the commission checks with my blessing. But as for these crackpots, that is a NO GO.

Warmest Regards,

Dan Coleman
VP of Business Development
Lease Rebates Group
845 Third Ave.
6th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Phone: (212) 634-2846
Email: dan@leaserebatesgroup.com
www.leaserebates.net

Don't drag me into your mess...first off I am out the tampa bay area not tampa..one office is in Tampa the other st pete and I am from the north shore of long island.

And your friend Shannon asked to speak with me...she seemed nice so I did.


I do not care what you do...I know more about Financial Services than you will ever know and I know this, anyone who sends something to someone who doesn't have a parent company or won't give up the name of the parent company then has their paycheck fed exed is nuts.

Leave me out of your scam. And if it isn't a scam you have ZERO presentation skills

[SBF]

Kit Menkin, creator/publisher of Leasing News...of which I've followed since I began my career in Equipment Leasing would probably be interested in this.. but I highly doubt he and his group are aware of this particular program. I can say in my copier sales and leasing days, I worked for Danka, and we offered rebates on the left over/prior generation models as a buying incentive.
Dan's rebate program is similar, although the primary objective is to get much need capital into the hands of struggling merchants that are terribly over leversged/stacked. It works and most of the folks I explain it to are on board and see it for what it's worth.

[Karen37a]

Kit Menkin, creator/publisher of Leasing News...of which I've followed since I began my career in Equipment Leasing would probably be interested in this.. but I highly doubt he and his group are aware of this particular program. I can say in my copier sales and leasing days, I worked for Danka, and we offered rebates on the left over/prior generation models as a buying incentive.
Dan's rebate program is similar, although the primary objective is to get much need capital into the hands of struggling merchants that are terribly over leversged/stacked. It works and most of the folks I explain it to are on board and see it for what it's worth.

This is a terrible way to get people to be involved with whatever you are into.

Backdoor introduction into who knows what.

Why would anyone want to be involved with this crap after all this...id join avon or amway first

[SBF]

No Kidding, but you said merchants with multiple MCA stacks and even JUDGEMENTS from funding companies are still able to get a quick corp only approval?

Believe me, if they were able to be approved for a 100K corp only deal on the fly (not even an app only needed nonetheless), they're gonna have bank lines open for like 4% APR. Why would these top business credit lessees have multiple MCA Cash Advances?

As long as the judgement hasn't yet been reported to D&B and there aren't any collections or past due trade lines it should get approved. Pretty much every business has a D&B whether they know it or not.. and have creditors reporting on their behalf. Surprisingly, many top rated businesses have or have had an MCA.

[Karen37a]

As long as the judgement hasn't yet been reported to D&B and there aren't any collections or past due trade lines it should get approved. Pretty much every business has a D&B whether they know it or not.. and have creditors reporting on their behalf. Surprisingly, many top rated businesses have or have had an MCA.

And if you think I couldnt tell you were setting me up on the phone you are sadly mistaken

You think people just woke upon wall st one day with millons and 100's of brokers

We can see you coming, like some crazy roving band of carnies conning people

[WestCoastFunding]

Hey West Coast Funding.

1. What is your corp name? Because when I put "West Coast Funding" in to the CA secretary of state everything comes back dissolved for West Coast Funding Corp or West Coast Funding Group,etc.?
2. What state are you in? Are you even on the west coast or is that a ploy to throw people off?
3. Are you in good standing? How do your parents and siblings rate you as a person? Do you have any friends besides Facebook?

Let me ask you seriously, since you obviously make your living from the MCA world, do you sleep well at night when you help your clients stack themselves until they can't breathe?

And most of our clients are the ones who can't get another stack and have business credit, but have burned up their personal credit because brokers have gotten dozens of inquiries by shotgunning the client in the hopes to get a 6th position and make commission for rent and cigarette money. So again moron, nobody here is trying to steal clients or offer debt settlement. If you had the balls to call me and talk like a man you might make some money with me like other people are.

And obviously you did not read my first post where I told everyone that 'Lease Rebates Group" is a DBA and that we are incorporated under another name, and that you only get that name when your commission check is FedExed. But you and I won't be doing any business anyway because your mind is to small to sell anything but what you do now.

As for you Karen, I heard that you are out of Tampa. I am sure that they have some good mental health professionals down there who can help you resolve your childhood trauma issues which cause you to be disruptive and paranoid and socially dysfunctional. Best to you.

To the Admin of this forum, God bless you for dealing with some of the crackpots on here. I hope that I have not offended you by being so forthright with these idiots and by not disclosing the parent corp of Lease Rebates Group. Please contact Shannon known as SBF and she can even show you privately (the Admin) copies of the commission checks with my blessing. But as for these crackpots, that is a NO GO.

Warmest Regards,

Dan Coleman
VP of Business Development
Lease Rebates Group
845 Third Ave.
6th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Phone: (212) 634-2846
Email: dan@leaserebatesgroup.com
www.leaserebates.net

1. I don’t advertise my services on here
2. I don’t advertise my services on here
3. I don’t advertise my services on here.

See the difference between you and I? I’m not here to do business. You are. Strangely, you would like to refer clients to you, but you won’t even State you’re registered with the SoS? Are you in good standing or not?

How is asking who the **** your company is outlandish?

[Karen37a]

Pretty much every business has a D&B whether they know it or not

You have to sign up for d and b and its free ...so wrong again

other ways to see the info and other services as well

[SBF]

And if you think I couldnt tell you were setting me up on the phone you are sadly mistaken

You think people just woke upon wall st one day with millons and 100's of brokers

We can see you coming, like some crazy roving band of carnies conning people

That sort of hurt me... since I certainly no such intentions. You gave me a number and the name Elizabeth to call about a real estate hard money connection. To my surprise you answered.. this program couldn't have been further from my mind when we spoke late last week. Are you okay?

[Karen37a]

That sort of hurt me... since I certainly no such intentions. You gave me a number and the name Elizabeth to call about a real estate hard money connection. To my surprise you answered.. this program couldn't have been further from my mind when we spoke late last week. Are you okay?

No you PMed me about hard money ( out of the blue ) and I said to call me so I could refer you to someone...which I did.

Oh yeah I hurt you...your boyfriend over there or friend is pitching everyone

"this isn't for the simple-minded, you fools who rip your clients off, don't waste my time look what I have for you, that right ou...dont look away or ill slap you ...punch you, because I am so tough. That right I am not going to tell you where I am from because you are a loser a joker...maybe one day after you send me deals ill pay you thru fed ex...ask Shannon about it, she made money with me "


Glad you think we are that stupid or desperate

[SBF]

You have to sign up for d and b and its free ...so wrong again

other ways to see the info and other services as well

Why in the F are you being so combative?!?! I hope this won't initiate another strike from you.. but here goes nothing.
D&B is one of the original business credit reporting services.. D&B captures a new businesses info when that business registers to be corp, LLC or other entity type. Yes, it's true a business can voluntarily sign up.. but it's also true that they can be unknowingly added into their data base. D&B would love it if every business signed up.. but that's not how they get most of their data. If a business wants to have more accurate financial data reported, then yes, they need to sign up or claim ownership to the business that D&B has info on..

Try to stay calm.

[Karen37a]

Why in the F are you being so combative?!?! I hope this won't initiate another strike from you.. but here goes nothing.
D&B is one of the original business credit reporting services.. D&B captures a new businesses info when that business registers to be corp, LLC or other entity type. Yes, it's true a business can voluntarily sign up.. but it's also true that they can be unknowingly added into their data base. D&B would love it if every business signed up.. but that's not how they get most of their data. If a business wants to have more accurate financial data reported, then yes, they need to sign up or claim ownership to the business that D&B has info on..

Try to stay calm.

lol

you guys need to know how to pitch...if you are with him just say it, not have him use you as a referral...looks bad.

Ps the boiler rooms call those "pitches" the slap and hug


he did the slap forgot the tickle and the hug. If you want me to train you send a pm...5k for 2 hours

gl in your endeavours

[fundingsmbs]

Dan, you have a lot of anger and resentment against the MCA space and/or brokers from your posts. Make's no sense to promote in this forum with that attitude. the broker, who you are trying to get to refer on this site, makes a living selling MCAs, whether broker's sell first position or stack. you have to learn to be humble to ask for business from others. that's a basic trait of a business development professional.

[SBF]

No you PMed me about hard money ( out of the blue ) and I said to call me so I could refer you to someone...which I did.

Oh yeah I hurt you...your boyfriend over there or friend is pitching everyone

"this isn't for the simple-minded, you fools who rip your clients off, don't waste my time look what I have for you, that right ou...dont look away or ill slap you ...punch you, because I am so tough. That right I am not going to tell you where I am from because you are a loser a joker...maybe one day after you send me deals ill pay you thru fed ex...ask Shannon about it, she made money with me "


Glad you think we are that stupid or desperate

It's not about being stupid or desperate.. I was simply vouching for the truth. I know it works and it's legit.. Just like you said, you only work with a handful of lenders and that's that.. if your deals don't qualify with them.. then that's that. If you are satisfied with that effort, then so be it. I on the other hand will go the extra 100 miles to help a client and monetize a lead.. I don't earn anything by vouching for this program on here.. it's not always about that.. and for some ungodly reason, you have this notion that I'm after you.. now that I think about it.. you do try to make everything about you.. so I digress.. ya might want to lighten up.. the stress is evidently getting to you.

[SBF]

This is a terrible way to get people to be involved with whatever you are into.

Backdoor introduction into who knows what.

Why would anyone want to be involved with this crap after all this...id join avon or amway first

I was actually replying to Sean Bash (forgot to hit reply with quote).
[I see. Let's forget about the "equipment" for a minute. I'm putting it in quotes on purpose. There are lessors who will write a deal just based off a D&B and Paynet report up to 100k?

And if I ask the people over at LeasingNews about this system, what will they tell me?]

[SBF]

lol

you guys need to know how to pitch...if you are with him just say it, not have him use you as a referral...looks bad.

Ps the boiler rooms call those "pitches" the slap and hug


he did the slap forgot the tickle and the hug. If you want me to train you send a pm...5k for 2 hours

gl in your endeavours

Never worked in this type of environment.. so definitely not familiar with these tactics....but it says it A LOT about you. I would pay you $5K to log off...if only for a few minutes.

[Karen37a]

I was actually replying to Sean Bash (forgot to hit reply with quote).
[I see. Let's forget about the "equipment" for a minute. I'm putting it in quotes on purpose. There are lessors who will write a deal just based off a D&B and Paynet report up to 100k?

And if I ask the people over at LeasingNews about this system, what will they tell me?]

I hate this style of selling...misdirecting the conversation abnd since I am a trained sales person I do nto let clients or people do it to me.

What does any of that have to do with the fact that you guys cant pitch your product correctly because he came in like a bull in a china shop

I did not ask about the product...you are telling me about it...back to the bad pitch convo

[Karen37a]

Never worked in this type of environment.. so definitely not familiar with these tactics....but it says it A LOT about you. I would pay you $5K to log off...if only for a few minutes.

go learn the slap and tickle hug and how to gain interest in your product not shove it down peoples throats, then play defence when called out on it.

Bad bad bad sales training...takes years to correct that...best to start from scratch with new people

[MCNetwork]

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[Han Solo]

And one last post to you Han Solo. Do you really have any right to challenge Stellar Business Funding (SBF) on this forum when you post yourself on here as a ****ing Star Wars figure? She shows up as a Florida corp and uses her name. Did your parents name you Han Solo asshole?

You people live on planet delusional. But what is cool is that there are people on here who are making money; Including Shannon from Stellar Business Funding Inc who made just under 20 grand commission with me in about a 5 week period.

Laugh that one out moron.

You make claims from no where about who made what with zero evidence. So why do I need to give you my real name? I am doing fine without you and your bologna. I am not going to start cussing and running my mouth like some ass hat. I have been in this industry for a long time. I know everyone. So you getting froggish when you aint **** enjoy doing that "Dan" its 7 time to get to work.

[rebatefund]

Hi fundingsmbs.

I do apologize for losing my cool. Let me make it clear though: I do not have any resentment towards brokers in the MCA space. 6 years ago I started out as a broker in the MCA space, and it was tough then. Now the industry is so saturated that many of you, unless you have a loyal client or clients, have to go way down in your commission to compete, and then from what I hear you even have some funders backdooring you, which is atrocious.

I totally understand just how hard it is to get business and also how difficult it can be to keep a loyal client base when 1000 brokers and even funders are calling them each month from UCC lists, trying to steal them away. The MCA business is very cut throat and its worse now then ever before.

As far as being humble I don't do to well at that. Honestly my wife is a saint for putting up with my arrogance sometimes. I can be a totally obnoxious prick.

As far as people being suspicious, I understand that also. I am suspicious. In the past 3 years I have been burned. One instance was with a sleazy MCA broker who apparently told 3 of his over stacked clients that they should take the lease rebate deal because they wouldn't have to pay by claiming identity theft. Well obviously those claims did not spare any of the clients businesses from getting judgments and one client got jammed up personally because they stuck to their lies and actually used the same email to claim identity theft when communicating with the bank that they used to docusign the lease docs. Sheer genius that is.
But in the end it ruined my relationship with a good vendor (my only one at the time) and it deeply affected the vendor's credibility with the bank. So pardon me if I don't give a crap ton of info on my company on this forum.

I know that the majority of people on this forum are hard working and decent, but there are also scammers and low lives seeking how they can screw somebody over either for a buck or out of envy. This is not speculation. Like I said, I was screwed over by a buddy buddy broker who I did nothing for but try to help.

Again, I apologize to Karen and to West Coast Funding. No excuses on my part. You guys are trying to squeeze me to see if money comes out or if a stinky brown substance excretes instead. So I understand. And some of your questions are legitimate. I just refuse to answer because I really don't have to. I answer the really important ones for most people and I have way more references than just the 2 senior members of the forum who know I am not full of crap. And because I refuse to answer you do have a right to mistrust me if you choose.

As for Shannon (SBF). Shannon took a chance with us and she found us to be of high integrity in business, and she was financially rewarded for stepping out, and I am sure that she will be more in the future. As for (ABfunder) Micah, he took a chance also and has not gotten burned.

I hope that my response has been helpful.

Dan Coleman
VP of Business Development
Lease Rebates Group
845 Third Ave.
6th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Phone: (212) 634-2846
Email: dan@leaserebatesgroup.com
www.leaserebates.net

[gaxisa]

How is this guy not get banned

[Sachip24]

jeezz i have to start logging on at night time this thread was lit last night lol

[WestCoastFunding]

Broker: Hey, I think I found you a good funding option!
Merchant: Great, how much is the the loan for?
Broker: Its not a loan!
Merchant: Ok, how much is the cash advance for?
Broker: Its not a cash advance!
Merchant: So what is it?
Broker: Its a leasing rebate program!
Merchant: Leasing?
Broker: Yeah, its a 5 year term rebate program!
Merchant: What company will be providing funding?
Broker: I don't know!
Merchant: What do you mean you don't know?!
Broker: I don't the company name yet! Just know his name is Dan!
Merchant: Dan?
Broker: Dan Coleman!
Merchant: Dan who?
Broker: Dan from the internet!
Merchant: The internet??!!
Broker: Internet Dan!!
Merchant: What company does Dan work for?
Broker: I don't know!
Merchant: You don't know?!!
Broker: I don't know!!
Merchant: What do you mean you don't know??
Broker: He won't tell me!!
Merchant: Why doesn't he tell you the name of the company?
Broker: Only the DBA. He won't tell me the registered entity until after you're funded!
Merchant: After I'm funded??!!!!
Broker: After you're funded!!!
Merchant: He won't tell you his company name until after I'm funded????!!!
Broker: After you're funded!!!!
Merchant: Does he fund directly?????!!!!!
Broker: No, he's a broker!!!
Merchant: A BROKER?????
Broker: A broker!!!
Merchant: So Dan is a broker of a company that he won't tell you legal name of, and he's going to refer to someone else that we DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Broker: After you're funded!!
Merchant: .......... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[abfunders]

"What company will be providing funding?"

WCF, what broker answers that question on the first call? Or even a 2nd call? Why can't you just give them a half-truth. There are several outlets we use who fund, it depends on what's in stock.... What do you do in the case that a merchant asks that same question about an MCA?

This is a classic "straw man" criticism. Any salesman worth his hoot can deflect that question. And besides, before the call, you merge Dan onto the call and he'll take over.

Where did you get so much assumed beef with this program and how much time do you have on your hands that you spent so long describing a conversation that will never happen?

[WestCoastFunding]

"What company will be providing funding?"

WCF, what broker answers that question on the first call? Or even a 2nd call?

Do you often refer clients to other brokers without knowing the ****ING NAME of the legal entity you’re referring to? Kidding me?

Until he tells us what the name of his legal entity, he’s not a business. Just some guy.