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    What huge learning curve? We're not selling space ships. You can get a seasoned salesman from Best Buy to close cash advances within 48 hours with some basic training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCNetwork View Post
    What huge learning curve? We're not selling space ships. You can get a seasoned salesman from Best Buy to close cash advances within 48 hours with some basic training.
    ah huh

    Thats why all these funders/brokers/isos went under. Any way . thats that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen37a View Post
    ah huh

    Thats why all these funders/brokers/isos went under. Any way . thats that
    They went under because: Client Acquisition Cost > Operating Expenses

    It had nothing to do with a learning curve!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCNetwork View Post
    They went under because: Client Acquisition Cost > Operating Expenses

    It had nothing to do with a learning curve!


    Thats not understanding business ...etc


    Guess they should have had the free uccs like I did to start , then the 2 / 3 cent ones and the refurbished computers I had and now gave away

    They Learned the hard way huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen37a View Post
    ah huh

    Thats why all these funders/brokers/isos went under. Any way . thats that
    stop already why the fck must you turn every thread into oh look how great I am I win. Stop or go troll somewhere else. its exhausting someone asked a legitimate question this is not about you. just stop
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Celifarco View Post
    stop already why the fck must you turn every thread into oh look how great I am I win. Stop or go troll somewhere else. its exhausting someone asked a legitimate question this is not about you. just stop
    Yes, just block her John C. She honestly feeds on people responding to her because her sole purpose is attention and trolling. How the Admin of this website does not see this woman as a clear troll, is beyond me. But I digress.

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    Between Karen constantly telling everyone how great of a sales person she is and John explaining to everyone why sales skills have nothing to do with with selling this product, I have a migraine! I mean how do you people even have the time to constantly post some much nonsense on here?!

    Years ago when I started in this industry, the forum was actually quite helpful. Now it has gotten to the point that one freaking day can't go by without you two bickering back and forth. I think for everyone's sanity, every member of this forum will agree that:

    - Karen you are the greatest sales person to walk this earth, we are all in awe of your skills!

    - John, you are absolutely correct. There is no skill required to sell this product, we are all just glorified consultants and order takers handling the paperwork our merchants.

    Now can we move on with life????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by LYC View Post
    - John, you are absolutely correct. There is no skill required to sell this product, we are all just glorified consultants and order takers handling the paperwork our merchants.
    I actually did not say that, however, I agree about the topic being beaten to death.
    Last edited by jotucker1983; 02-28-2018 at 02:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LYC View Post
    Between Karen constantly telling everyone how great of a sales person she is and John explaining to everyone why sales skills have nothing to do with with selling this product, I have a migraine! I mean how do you people even have the time to constantly post some much nonsense on here?!

    Years ago when I started in this industry, the forum was actually quite helpful. Now it has gotten to the point that one freaking day can't go by without you two bickering back and forth. I think for everyone's sanity, every member of this forum will agree that:

    - Karen you are the greatest sales person to walk this earth, we are all in awe of your skills!

    - John, you are absolutely correct. There is no skill required to sell this product, we are all just glorified consultants and order takers handling the paperwork our merchants.

    Now can we move on with life????????

    No I am not but at least I try to help people lol

    And I can recognize when a company that makes 5 million 50 miillion a month is better than me

    And I do not make excuses for failure

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCNetwork View Post
    What huge learning curve? We're not selling space ships. You can get a seasoned salesman from Best Buy to close cash advances within 48 hours with some basic training.

    I agree with this. I believe the industry is completely exposed to the point where a guy can honestly teach himself the industry using all of the available resources.

    But, if he's going to use an offline mentor, that mentor is most likely not going to do it for "free". So starting as a co-broker for 1 to 2 months could be beneficial if he's getting coaching, excellent industry overviews, along with assistance on how to structure his office and raise capital for marketing purposes. If the mentor is going to do all of that, fine. If the mentor is just going to recite some "sales book crap" or "law of attraction crap" then don't bother.

    But with that being said, I can't stand co-brokering. Co-brokering in 98% of the cases makes absolutely no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCNetwork View Post
    What huge learning curve? We're not selling space ships. You can get a seasoned salesman from Best Buy to close cash advances within 48 hours with some basic training.
    at the rate they are closing stores? Those Best Buy employees will be looking for work

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