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03-01-2018, 12:55 PM #1
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02-28-2018, 12:39 PM #2Karen37aGuest
And also why people are single man shops with no team
or Funders with 5 people in a room
think what you will...you made it to the top of one building in a middle class neigorbohhod "sales idea"
now get to the upscale building ...make it to the top
then hit the immuniati building, when you can see tether moving into bitcoin in advance ...see you there
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02-28-2018, 12:44 PM #3Karen37aGuest
You know how many brokers I had to talk down from spending 50k on marketing?
Knowing that they would make 5-10 sales split with me and I would have 0 put into the marketing? then they would be bankrupted?
I had enough ..live by the motto
"if its free its for me" at first...sweat equity
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02-28-2018, 12:47 PM #4Karen37aGuest
Flyers , postcards , billboards , trade shows etc etc etc
All ZERO cost to me.
All because they want to avoid the phone.
What the heck do you think some rookie isos are? Some guy who is going to put 50k into marketing and send of 5 deals one funded
Some crazy woman opened up shop near me...lost 1 million and funded 10 deals in a year. Doing business with some of the guys on these boards.
i told her she should have just given me the 1 million...i would have returneed it plus 20% while her concieted self sat by the pool with her poodle and fanned herself.
I have some of her staff now...thanks for the training $$Last edited by Karen37a; 02-28-2018 at 12:50 PM.
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02-28-2018, 12:53 PM #5
i am not one for blocking people on an open forum but damn it may be time
John Celifarco
Managing Partner
Horizon Funding Group
3423 Ave S
Brooklyn, NY 11234
T: (347) 773-3990 | F: (718) 795-1990
Linkedin: Profile
Email: john@horizonfundinggroup.com
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02-28-2018, 12:54 PM #6Karen37aGuest
Block me ..its easy..hit ignore
It is not just ME...many brokers are doing it, have done it.( I cant speak for others financial privacy issues...so i have to say I)
keep the costs down...follow a pattern, don't let your ego get the best of your
end of the conversation on this thread for me
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02-28-2018, 01:29 PM #7
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Jesus, Karen.
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02-28-2018, 02:13 PM #8
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ohhhhhhhhh boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Marcus Clapman | Business Development | Cresthill Capital
(High Commissions Payout Group)
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Tel: 917-521-6528 | Fax: 212.671.1473
Email: bizdev@cresthillcapital.com
http://www.cresthillcapital.com
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02-28-2018, 02:36 PM #9Karen37aGuest
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02-28-2018, 03:30 PM #10
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02-28-2018, 03:39 PM #11
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Hi CapAxess,
Welcome to the forum! I like that you are picking an industry to go after rather than being a jack of all trades. Having knowledge of an industry is important when speaking with prospects about their companies. Having an understanding of their business and needs will give you the tools to provide a financial solution that makes sense for the owner rather than just selling money.
I do a fair amount of industry focused cold calling and find LinkedIn can be a useful tool if used correctly. I have also found that attending industry focused networking events and trade shows can be worth the time and money as you might get a chance to meet prospects face to face. You live in a state that has many convention centers that constantly have trade shows on a weekly basis.
You may also consider researching bankers, accountants, and attorneys that specialize in healthcare as they can be a great source of referrals.
I personally do not use UCC lists or buy marketing leads, but I am not in the MCA space. We are factors and asset based lenders. Most of our prospects come to us from outbound industry specific cold calling and marketing and from referral sources that know we have deep industry knowledge in certain industries. You may want to educate yourself on other capital markets product you can offer the prospect besides just MCA: SBA Loans, equipment loans/leasing, Bank products, and other non-bank products.
Best of luck!
KevinKevin Henry
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02-28-2018, 04:28 PM #12
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Another thought with dealing with Doctors. Get to know the nurses in their offices or nurses that work with them on a regular basis at clinics an hospital. Operating Room and ER Nurses are sometimes the best way into getting to know the surgeon. There are a bunch of nurse networking and professional groups around.
I am attending a large trade show this month that is all about operating room nursing. We are active lenders to temp staffing companies and love IT an Nurse Temp staffing a bunch. The trade show I am attending will likely have over 5,000 attendees.Kevin Henry
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561-850-9346
Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
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Boynton Beach, FL 33426
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02-28-2018, 04:31 PM #13Karen37aGuest
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03-01-2018, 09:20 AM #14
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03-01-2018, 09:24 AM #15Karen37aGuest
Nurse practitioners would never get "involved" in cash advances.
In fact people do not like that their staff or anyone including their priest know that they took out a cash advance and they have bad credit.
ok im off . Have fun'
Dont head towards seminole and st peteh...or the country club there, its wasting time. My aunt is there real estate agent and they have a memorial golf tourantment for my uncle who died 10 years ago. he had more charisma than I do. lol
They also donate big money to the hospitalsLast edited by Karen37a; 03-01-2018 at 09:52 AM.
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03-02-2018, 04:58 PM #16
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My experience with doctors has proven to be this case as well. Especially since they want to keep a certain image, or one might say, airs...
Pro Mac is a company that focuses on funding in the medical industry and has been around for years. Perhaps you can co-broker/work with them and learn through first hand experience.
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03-01-2018, 09:59 AM #17
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Kevin Henry
VP-Business Development
Seacoast Business Funding, a division of Seacoast Bank
561-850-9346
Kevin.Henry@SeacoastBF.com
1880 N Congress Ave., Suite 404
Boynton Beach, FL 33426
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03-01-2018, 10:26 AM #18Karen37aGuest
OR you say
"I help people achive their business goals with alternative financing options when the bank has turned them down"
Then they will say " how do you do that"
GOT UM...reel them in
Sales linguistics
** do not throw up on them when they ask "how"
pullllll do not push...get with a top sales person they can help you with smoothing out the lines
The cross roads for all sales people is when they have to lower their ego to be coached. The day you realize sales in not blind luck.Last edited by Karen37a; 03-01-2018 at 10:34 AM.
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02-28-2018, 03:47 PM #19Karen37aGuest
Or
Doctors and Dentists are very hard to reach
you have to call them in the Am before they get their practice going or you will hear "he is with a patient" " the dr cant be distrubed"
" Do you realize he is a Dr?" he is a surgeon, he CANT set an appointment, he is a very important man...he is a dentist....all day
( merchant calls ar tough too...one dr told a paper Funder/lender he doesn't have time for such silly questions...hung up on him, got denieed then begged me to go back and get the underwriting to change their mind).
So call them between 8-9...get drs from across the country so you can dial as the time zone changes and you can dial up to 12:00.
Go to lunch ..or eat at your desk ( lunch is for wimps) then dial the extended offer or better sic codes...before you leave call the drs again. Shoot out an email on the 3rd day of calling them.
Ps I got the underwriter to change his mind then the dr stood him up for the merchant call lol
Do not just focus on drs /dentists...you will quit inside of 60 daysLast edited by Karen37a; 02-28-2018 at 04:02 PM.
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02-28-2018, 04:45 PM #20Karen37aGuest
op
Watch out if you go to downtown st Pete Hilton...some of the area is kinda ghetto
if you make it there head to feather sound country clubs ...hilton. I am next door.
pop on by my office and say hi
off for a few days vacation everyone have fun!Last edited by Karen37a; 02-28-2018 at 04:51 PM.
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02-28-2018, 05:44 PM #21
This is my 6th month running in MCA Industry. So far 37 deals funded.
Patrick Wilson
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(NO MORE LENDER/FUNDER CALL PLZ)
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03-01-2018, 08:27 AM #22Karen37aGuest
Also when you call "drs" the minute you address him as "Dr"
Example Dr Bob DoeDr Bob...Dr Doe, Dr
You lost the sale ( they will not see you as a competent advisor) they already put themselves on a pedestal...you have to bring them down to eye level.
** Some Nurses have a Dr. Fetish. they have dreams of being "Mrs. Dr. Something" with a big house, 2 kids, and a big fat engagement ring. ( or they wish they could marry a Dr)
Or they are Nurse Rachet
The Drs do not put much stock into some of them unless they are the Nurse/ wife Nurse/ mistress Nurse /bookkeeper -accountant
So when you meet these nurses, find out who handles the books so you do not waste time befriending Nurse Rachet
or save a trip with a phone call " who is in charge of the business "accounting" and making the financial decisons"Last edited by Karen37a; 03-01-2018 at 08:51 AM.
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03-01-2018, 02:34 PM #23
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a good salesmen can adapt to any product or service. there is virtually no training anymore in this industry from direct funders outside a guideline sheet so it may be best working for an ISO who will teach you the product or a direct funder who is hiring direct sales reps. also, getting inbound leads and closing is a lot different than outside sales hunting and closing your own deals. if your new, I would suggest inside sales for awhile until you learn in inside/out.
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03-01-2018, 02:46 PM #24Karen37aGuest
Exactly
Or give up all your applications then head back to best buy...saying ( glengarry glenross)
I use to be a salesman...its a tough racket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emSV5DicTVw
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03-01-2018, 02:51 PM #25
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Karen so what is it you actually do? You are always writing novels on here on every other post daily. Do you ever put your stellar sales skills to work or do you just type about them on a forum. I do not see how anybody in this industry would have enough time to post as much as you do, if they were actually getting things done.
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