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01-25-2018, 06:42 AM #1
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Is it just me or do you all see the trend over the last couple of years on this forum ,that 90 percent of those who pay for advertising on here are legitimate and 90percent of those that come and advertise for free wind up being illegitimate
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01-25-2018, 08:51 AM #2Karen37aGuest
No. More like 70/30
And do you realize that there are Isos and other Funders /lenders who might be honest who do not want to use the internet or DF to advertise for passive leads or referrals?
I was of the opinion that this is more of a networking community...learn, , meet funders and other lenders, isos, brokers who are in the industry or ask a question of experienced people while you make your way thru the treacherous waters and make $$.
I am also of the opinion that people who search for passive leads will go out of business if they do not pick up the phone or have a great SEO inbound campaign .edit* ( or go door to door face to face like processing visa/mc ...or Life insurance agents**) . I have been debated fiercely on this over the years. Results stand.
Are you trying to get more advertising? lol I don't get it.Last edited by Karen37a; 01-25-2018 at 09:04 AM. Reason: Edit . door to door face to face
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01-25-2018, 09:16 AM #3Karen37aGuest
It's like a big multi-level marketing company. Someone joins, then recruits 20 others and they all sit around the room looking at each other saying...we joined a month ago why are we not rich...this doesn't work .
Answer: because someone has to make the sales.
Then they try to figure out how to recruit a top producer so they turn over the sales to them.Top producers only follow top producers or companies with volume. Unless you pay them. And the ones who are really good won't take a salary.
It becomes very clear who is being fed leads or who can hustle them out through hard work.
There are no shortcuts and the cream always rises to the top
Trust but verify the funders/isos etc.The ones who are sponsored have been vetted. doesn't mean the other are consLast edited by Karen37a; 01-25-2018 at 09:19 AM.
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01-25-2018, 06:02 PM #4
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Same like not being able to afford a business email .If you are a real lender funding real business than you can afford to pay for some advertising on here.
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01-25-2018, 06:51 PM #5Karen37aGuest
Maybe some people who notice trends didn't want to be stacked and stay away from the defaulting crowd. maybe that's how they stayed alive ...no problems making people a shiate ton load of money.
Trends = Quantitive Analysis over time
There is a whole big world out there. Trillions and trillions of money moving per second...we are a blip, hence the reason I never thought regulators would get their panties in a bunch to move forward to regulate us.Last edited by Karen37a; 01-25-2018 at 06:58 PM.
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01-25-2018, 07:08 PM #6Karen37aGuest
Go to a big hedge fund party...or a big stockbrokage firm and say "I funded 1 million per month" they will pat you on the head and say ...that's nice... lol
Big Loan company....they will say ...one house?
Just say ...oh yeah...bet you don't get 10 points...stuff your pockets with free caviar and leave gracefullyLast edited by Karen37a; 01-25-2018 at 07:14 PM.
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01-26-2018, 10:26 AM #7
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01-26-2018, 10:34 AM #8
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01-26-2018, 10:35 AM #9
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01-26-2018, 10:36 AM #10Karen37aGuest
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01-26-2018, 10:39 AM #11Karen37aGuest
Go ahead and get the bozo convention to run around yelling that I have no credibility because I had a dui.
Stop painting this broad brush on some and not others
And I am not asking you. I am telling you. Cut it out. Or people can tell whats really going on behind the scenes.
Soft pulls to steal applications and the whole nine yards
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01-26-2018, 10:42 AM #12
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01-26-2018, 10:46 AM #13Karen37aGuest
You always say that.
Do you actually believe that of all the financial companies... Funders and lenders; that if they do not advertise here they are criminals or somehow unethical?
is your vision and experience in the industry so small?
is this an advertising board or sales funnel/ CRM for unsuspecting newbies or a networking community?
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01-26-2018, 10:54 AM #14
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first off i think you are confusing me with someone else . next i am not saying that who ever does not advertise on here is unethical . thats ludicrous . what i said is that those that do advertise on here , the ones that just blast free post wind up being a scam and the ones that pay on the side wind up legitimate .
karen this is my experience , i am not sure why you are getting so hostel like i am personally attacking you since i had a different experience .
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01-26-2018, 10:55 AM #15Karen37aGuest
Did you ever stop to realize that some people came from Financial Services ...maybe bringing money with them and you trying to steer people into what YOU want...scared them all off?
I am the only idiot that stuck around.
Some of us didn't come here to be a telemarketing agent or 3 man shop.
We came to create a company and partner on the money. Its not up to YOU how people advertise and to call other(a select few) people unethical, it is ridiculous because they do not fit into your MINI group of people.
Some people are not going to join your little group or someone elses they are bigger than you.
And. I have posts and post of you giggling like a girl posting my linken page etc...but i didn't return post yours and say" he is a small 3 man shop"Last edited by Karen37a; 01-26-2018 at 10:58 AM.
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01-26-2018, 11:07 AM #16
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Again i am not sure why you are turning this personal .someone posted a wrong link for you and i was correcting them .i apologized that in hindsight you did not like that and it was a mistake .at the time i honestly was trying to help you.not giggling like a little girl
i am stating what i have been seeing on this forum .facts . the scam post were getting so bad that admin made new rules of that they must have signatures ,company email address etc . since than majority of the companies that have been doing the free advertising , a week or month later came out to be a scam . ( i am not talking about the ones that post all the time and then say they can help like richard ,abfunder and the such, it is the new companies that come only to post there advertisement and that is it)
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01-26-2018, 11:10 AM #17
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Karen shut the **** up for once.
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01-26-2018, 11:13 AM #18Karen37aGuest
I agree. If people have gmail they are not a company. But. There are hedge funds who come onhere...investment bankers...lenders. Funders who will not want to advertize.
I never wanted to advertise here BUT if what I am saying to people helps generate sales activity I do not care...too much competition out there for me to worry about a few that will take it to heart.
I am reaching outside to bring in new deals... non-cannibalized that's why I am in first position a lot. Or put a second behind someone I do not do business with. Its in Funders best interest for people to pull from outside...especially if they are a stacker or want to be 1st position...win win
its a smart business move, not unethical ...now some are unethical ....70/30
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01-26-2018, 11:21 AM #19Karen37aGuest
And see Michael. You "helping out" by giving some punk kid behind a screen my linken page...who would never reveal himself because he is a coward....doesn't really help and you knew it going in
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01-26-2018, 11:23 AM #20
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Do not worry michael i , when she puts the bottle down and realizes she is loca , she will edit all the posts.
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01-26-2018, 11:25 AM #21Karen37aGuest
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01-26-2018, 11:32 AM #22
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not worried lol , we will be friends again tomorrow . I do not think she is understanding what i am saying . I will love someone else to chime in here and let me know if i am missing something or karen is . and then rewrite the point so the other one can understand
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01-26-2018, 11:34 AM #23Karen37aGuest
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01-26-2018, 11:37 AM #24
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01-26-2018, 11:39 AM #25Karen37aGuest