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11-20-2017, 10:04 AM #1
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Good Live Transfer Source...
Can anyone recommend a Good Live Transfer Source?
I understand Im not going to get the super plugs... but just someone decent.
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11-20-2017, 10:23 AM #2Karen37aGuest
(This is not posted for a huge debate or fight. I can respond , first dig at me I am exiting stage right, )
This is where the rubber meets the road for brokers.
Leads are generated thru referral, seo, cold calling, warm market, face to face, bus to bus.
Live transfer leads are few and far between. They are only as good as the cold caller qualifying them, and if they were really good on the phone( 98% of the time) they wouldn't be a minimum wage cold caller.
This is why someone like me is valuable. I am a master at lead generation, marketing, and closing BUT I only teach the guys on my team ( I make money off it ) And in this industry people are not loyal.
Once you teach them a small part they think they can open up an Iso and do not need you anymore...then they turn to stealing, scamming, posing then implode.
Looking for instant leads does not work. The ones who want money tomorrow usually have huge negative underwriting issues attached to them or are going to default, double stack etc.
Prequalifying upfront and having higher closing ratios and higher % of breaking thru the gatekeeper conversations to the decision-maker does.
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11-20-2017, 10:26 AM #3
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11-20-2017, 10:27 AM #4Karen37aGuest
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11-20-2017, 11:35 AM #5
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I dont want to train anyone. I want Live Transfers. I asked for a referral, not a lecture.
I have been in this Industry my entire adult life, I know the pros and cons.
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11-20-2017, 11:40 AM #6Karen37aGuest
There are none.Its a fantasy...you are setting yourself up for a lead broker to take you for money
let me know when you are betting me on the lead generation, Until then I will not respond going forwards.
gl to you
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11-20-2017, 01:39 PM #7
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First Pacific Marketing
www.firstpacificmarketing.com
Leo Johnson
949.287.6835
Call Qualifier
www.callqualifier.com
Scott Ely
888.630.5530
I've used them both and they're experienced and legit.
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11-20-2017, 01:43 PM #8Karen37aGuest
Great Mcn . Thanks for the help.
What were your conversion ratios and is there a reason you stopped making phone calls and went the way of face to face business to business thru processing?
Maybe I can modify my approach. Never to old to learn something ya know.
its almost as hard as going face to face door to door with Life insurance, but not as embarrassing
Are you still training people on how to do it?
I saw a great post from you.
Please do not say the patented " I graduated from phone calls thing a ma bob"Last edited by Karen37a; 11-20-2017 at 01:53 PM.
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11-20-2017, 02:03 PM #9
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Karen, I stopped using live transfers because I don't have internal salespeople anymore and I certainly have no interest in being glued to a desk waiting for transfers to come in. I work with a select group of ISOs and I'm focusing on merchant services because that is something that I am much more interested in and I've developed a winning formula.
As far as the effectiveness of the live transfers, I was net positive from using them but I was tired of dealing with the headaches that came from managing in-house salespeople and having a $5,000/month office and all the other expenses which could be going into my pocket. Nowadays, I'm making much more money being home-based and focusing on merchant services. I also own my own schedule, which is priceless. I still do merchant cash advances, but it's just a value-added product nowadays.
For the right office that is set up with fronters and solid closers, live transfers is the best way to scale quickly and efficiently. I've worked with the best in-house sales teams in the industry (NLF/MCC, Rapid Capital, Strategic Funding) and they ALL use live transfers.Last edited by MCNetwork; 11-20-2017 at 02:06 PM.
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11-20-2017, 02:05 PM #10
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11-20-2017, 02:08 PM #11Karen37aGuest
I know some off shore
Some of you should have taken the free transfers I was going to pass...when offered
If I gather the strength to do it one more time...3 offices blasting phone calls, legally...ill think of you for overflow
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11-20-2017, 03:33 PM #12
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11-20-2017, 03:41 PM #13Karen37aGuest
I will be on a cruise ship soon...don't miss me, go make a sale while I am gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50VWOBi0VFs
Labrinth Jealous
I'm jealous of the rain
That falls upon your skin
It's closer than my hands have been
I'm jealous of the rain
I'm jealous of the wind
That ripples through your clothes
It's closer than your shadow
Oh, I'm jealous of the wind
'Cause I wished you the best of
All this world could give
And I told you when you left me
There's nothing to forgive
But I always thought you'd come back, tell me all you found was
Heartbreak and misery
It's hard for me to say, I'm jealous of the way
You're happy without meLast edited by Karen37a; 11-20-2017 at 04:14 PM. Reason: edit waving *****
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11-21-2017, 10:49 AM #14
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11-21-2017, 10:51 AM #15
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Dave Lambert, Business Development
dave@fcbankcard.com
Merchant Services Consultant
High Risk Merchant Payment Solutions
SBA 7(a) Loans & Short-Term Funding
T/VM: 727-291-7890
Office: 727-233-1111
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11-21-2017, 11:00 AM #16
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dude arent you the one who wrote in another thread that if you dont talk no one will know how stupid you are or something like that . Promotion is for someone promoting a product , not asking a question .
You need to learn to take a chill pill , relax with the the forum police especially with the fact that you are constantly doing it wrong
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11-21-2017, 11:02 AM #17
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What am I promoting? Im asking a Question... regarding Merchant Cash Advances....
And you peddle your Sage ACH Crap in Multiple sections...
Your a clown.
Your Like the little Nark that no one played with as a kid..."Hey guys we need a fishing license to fish here" - "hey its dark out the park is now closed"
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11-21-2017, 05:16 PM #18
You should be thinking live inbounds instead of transfers...
Live Inbound- Someone picked up the phone and called you based on your CTA.
Live Transfer- A lead generation company gave a call center in Mumbai a list to call and play the piano but instead of music, they play "Hi, How are you" and "Do you need funding for your business" followed by a push to your phones.
Send out an email blast and make the CTA "Call us at #" with a Kall8 number routed to your reps on round robin.
The phrase "Live Transfers" disgusts me more than 3 week old egg sandwiches.
It's right up there with "Can I speak to the business owner."
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11-21-2017, 05:17 PM #19
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11-22-2017, 12:55 AM #20
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11-22-2017, 12:57 AM #21
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11-22-2017, 12:59 AM #22
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11-22-2017, 12:29 PM #23
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I will teach you the rules. Anyone who hires commission only and claims that they are a master of lead generation, marketing is full of ****. It means they know how to hire cold callers and promise them the world.Those of us that do spend a ton on ppc and build our own call centers,pay salary mainly and small commission.
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11-24-2017, 08:59 AM #24Karen37aGuest
There is a difference between Cold market lead generation and telemarketing and cold calling there is s difference between Brokers ( who use cold market techniques) and cold callers/telemarketers who are in essence min wage workers.A sub-Iso ...or sub-broker ( who could be an iso if they wanted to ) who knows how to hunt down clients is not a "cold caller" because they use the phone to talk to clients.Everyone uses the phone eventually including the merchants so everyone is a "cold caller" or phone sales person )
All lead generation usually stems from cold market vs warm or referral.
(So dial out to get to them or get them to call you)Some people who can generate inbound leads are in no way shape or form on the same level as someone doing a constant contact drip marketing campaign.
Everyone needs to find their own way. I happen to like to mix them up because I came from a stockbrokers background ( smile and dial )...life insurance ( face to face, warm market, getting to the kitchen table of someone's home ) and Mortgages, where I did a combo of dialing and face to face and massive referrals.
If you have the money to hire someone for INBOUND lead generation one of the experts..a few on this site. Do it.(As someone states inbound isn't live transfers) DO IT.I get tired of people claiming they are experts then blanking every month in sales then leaving the industry and saying the sales profession sucks.
And the dumbest thing on the planet to tell your sales people, the ones who work for you is " I graduated from calling people" So in other words, it's a dirty job, it sucks and you are above us.
Learn how to love the sales profession...say it in the mirror " I am a salesperson and I am proud of it" keep saying it as the millions roll in.
Ps when you get really great in sales you do not hate it because you do not get slammed off the phone every 10th or 100th phone call. And if I ever got slammed off the 10000th phone call I really really think in my head...your loss, you will never in your life meet someone who could actually advise you in essence "for free" or" for cost" with as much knowledge as me ( warren buffet isn't taking your phone call). Your loss.Last edited by Karen37a; 11-24-2017 at 09:01 AM. Reason: typos as usual
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11-24-2017, 10:40 AM #25
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"Sometimes pushing people around
Sometimes pulling out the rug
Sometimes pushing all the buttons
Sometimes pulling out the plug
It's the power and the glory
It's a war in paradise
It's a Cinderella story
On a tumble of the dice
Big money goes around the world
Big money take a cruise
Big money leave a mighty wake
Big money leave a bruise
Big money make a million dreams
Big money spin big deals
Big money make a mighty head
Big money spin big wheels"
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