[Karen37a]

Yes . And when I was a kid( and new) a bunch of us use to show up to the office early 8:00 to call doctors ...top producers would waddle in 9-10 and we stayed late...7 pm -10 pm to call Calif ...less competition.

We wanted to get our name on the big boy's white board...even if we were the last name on the bottom.

Thats what it takes to win. Not vm's.

And I am from North shore Long Island. Gold Coast and the Hamptons...expensive cloth as well but in fl right now...snow bird