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  1. #1
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    same day backdoored

    send a A paper deal to ondeck, bluevine & knight.
    same day got Backdoored.
    i am not upset at the iso (which i know who he is)
    i am upset at the lender since they backdoored it so fast
    like if they backdoored it 7 days later fine but the same day?!?!?

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    Thats crazy... Another person told me today that it happened to him and that he thinks Knight is doing that.. :/ Unreal man .... sorry to hear

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    shocking since knight gave me a approval

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    makes you think.. i thought they were a reputable

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    create multiple google voice numbers in your next merchant timezone and see which one gets called.

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    thanks Michael. will do that

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    We use Telecom API to mask the merchant's number, if they call the number back guess who answers?
    Last edited by 305Shark; 09-02-2020 at 09:30 PM.

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    Smart... Thats interesting @305Shark.. Can you explain me how to do that please

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperCloser View Post
    Smart... Thats interesting @305Shark.. Can you explain me how to do that please
    Here you go: https://www.twilio.com/docs/proxy/quickstart

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    Edit
    Last edited by SmartAdvanced; 12-20-2020 at 12:36 PM.

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    @smartadvanced ur speaking from experience.

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    We use twilio and slack for this. We have about 3 numbers per lender with random area codes (no FL, NY, CA)
    If they call a number, it will send a message which lender backdoored the deal. We also have a few domains that look very similar to an email provider so our system will put a trackable phone number & email one each app per funder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistamca View Post
    We use twilio and slack for this. We have about 3 numbers per lender with random area codes (no FL, NY, CA)
    If they call a number, it will send a message which lender backdoored the deal. We also have a few domains that look very similar to an email provider so our system will put a trackable phone number & email one each app per funder.
    This sounds super legit. Wish I had a system like that

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    We have had several of our deals backdoored before by a few lenders and it is almost always a rouge employee at the company that is stealing from them and not a "company policy" to steal deals. I'm sure there will be an uptick of this with employees working from home. you just have to keep on your merchants so they call you if anyone reaches out.

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    For sure Knight. I thought they were waiting 3 days on approvals to backdoor. Declines are definitely the same day. Always from a broker shop in Florida. Never had an issue with On Deck or Bluevine. I once had a rep from Knight call one of my app numbers meaning to call the merchant. When I asked why the hell he is calling the "Merchant" he wasn't even embarrassed. He said company policy is we can call and follow up after 3 days.

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    wow shocking i am done with knight

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    I thought it was them but it's in your house. Joshua Jacob from Prestige does that. He solicits your employees to sell the paper out the back door on LinkedIn

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