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    How long do you think it will be before everyone and their mom (literally) is participating in local cash advance deals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MerchantDataGuy View Post
    How long do you think it will be before everyone and their mom (literally) is participating in local cash advance deals?
    already happening

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    Yeah, SomoLend.com is pretty sweet. FundersCloud was well designed, but I think they messed up by making it an "insider's only" product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MerchantDataGuy View Post
    How long do you think it will be before everyone and their mom (literally) is participating in local cash advance deals?
    You're not the first one to say that =P

    http://www.merchantprocessingresourc...-cash-advance/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MerchantDataGuy View Post
    Yeah, SomoLend.com is pretty sweet. FundersCloud was well designed, but I think they messed up by making it an "insider's only" product.
    What do you mean by insiders only? i thought anyone could sign up?

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    Great concept. Impossible to execute properly.

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    why earn 5-10% over a long period of time when you could earn way more and in a shorter period?

    I never heard of somolend. Are they new? Did this originate from the mca space? Are people using this?

    "Starting January 1, 2013, Individual Lenders can lend money to business owners who are your friends, family members, neighbors and social media connections all with a simple and secure systematic repayment schedule.

    Do well by doing good and earn interest rates as high as 22% in the process. Upon completion of a loan transaction, SoMoLend charges a 1.8% portfolio management fee. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    why earn 5-10% over a long period of time when you could earn way more and in a shorter period?

    I never heard of somolend. Are they new? Did this originate from the mca space? Are people using this?

    "Starting January 1, 2013, Individual Lenders can lend money to business owners who are your friends, family members, neighbors and social media connections all with a simple and secure systematic repayment schedule.

    Do well by doing good and earn interest rates as high as 22% in the process. Upon completion of a loan transaction, SoMoLend charges a 1.8% portfolio management fee. "
    Yeah and they apparently raised $1.5 million

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCNetwork View Post
    Great concept. Impossible to execute properly.
    That's a dangerous line of thought. Folks were literally outraged that because of this thing called the Automobile, their good old roads and horses had to be disrupted. Telephone companies were ambivalent when cell phones came around; "they're no threat." Where is Bell Atlantic / South? Jerry Yang, former founder and CEO of Yahoo! looked Larry Page and Sergiy Brin dead in the eye and told them their vision for search was impossilbe to pull off. Now Google is a verb; "Google it." Reed Hastings CEO of Netflix was told that there was no way people would rent movies by mail (this was when Blockbuster was huge). Democrats clung to Hillary Clinton before Obama because they felt it was impossible for a black man to be elected President.


    The annals of history are littered with the carcasses of those who have chosen to denounce big goals as being impossible, rather than to figure out how to make them possible. It's very easy, and comfortable for you to say; "impossible" because it gives you peace of mind. What's really hard to do is to figure out how to make it POSSIBLE. The laws, the algorithms, the data structures, PCI compliance, security, etc. Sun Tzu says; "know your enemy better than you know yourself." What do you know about all these formers securities traders, lawyers, bankers etc who are heading up all these crowd funding initiatives?

    Software is eating the world, and it will eat this industry if guys don't start to innovate from within.
    Last edited by JayBallentine; 02-05-2013 at 08:32 AM.

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    Well said Jay. Breaking the mold is something needed in this industry. Owning a functional aggregation entity in this industry, we have been told that what we have striven to do is impossible. I will tell you point blank that it is indeed very possible and extremely effective when executed correctly.

    Firstly, trying to capitalize on 1.8% is not feasible because quite frankly the volume is just not there to support the over head necessary to build and maintain an enterprise such as somolend. One realization that needs to be made is that our industry in the grand scheme of things is tiny as finance goes. The pie is just not big enough to pull this model off based on fees alone. Look at The Receivables exchange. They processed an extremely large amount of business with a very similar model. At the end of the day they could not support the overhead and are on the verge of folding after laying off the entirety of their sales staff. The keys to the model are syndication and low overhead. Taking points is not amenable to the brokers or lenders.

    On the technology front, providing tools for brokers to access more markets is much more effective at driving revenue than a syndication marketplace. We are about to launch an MCA based, extremely low barrier to entry comparative rater that gives brokers just that. Access to up to 15 direct lenders and system by which brokers can efficiently process and manage business to said lenders. We have been doing the aforementioned with people for the past three years and are very excited to see what this innovation will bring to our large network of brokers.

    Being that we syndicate 50% of every deal that I can tell you first hand that not every lender is allowing syndication. As a matter of fact most are starting to require "accredited investor" status from would be syndication investors. This will help thin out the number of people who will be able to syndicate as the industry matures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBallentine View Post
    That's a dangerous line of thought. Folks were literally outraged that because of this thing called the Automobile, their good old roads and horses had to be disrupted. Telephone companies were ambivalent when cell phones came around; "they're no threat." Where is Bell Atlantic / South? Jerry Yang, former founder and CEO of Yahoo! looked Larry Page and Sergiy Brin dead in the eye and told them their vision for search was impossilbe to pull off. Now Google is a verb; "Google it." Reed Hastings CEO of Netflix was told that there was no way people would rent movies by mail (this was when Blockbuster was huge). Democrats clung to Hillary Clinton before Obama because they felt it was impossible for a black man to be elected President.


    The annals of history are littered with the carcasses of those who have chosen to denounce big goals as being impossible, rather than to figure out how to make them possible. It's very easy, and comfortable for you to say; "impossible" because it gives you peace of mind. What's really hard to do is to figure out how to make it POSSIBLE. The laws, the algorithms, the data structures, PCI compliance, security, etc. Sun Tzu says; "know your enemy better than you know yourself." What do you know about all these formers securities traders, lawyers, bankers etc who are heading up all these crowd funding initiatives?

    Software is eating the world, and it will eat this industry if guys don't start to innovate from within.
    THAT is a potent post my friends...

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    The peer to peer companies entering business lending only will work with accredited investors unless the SEC allows them to go after the general public to invest in deals these platforms aggregate. The returns are listed on the websites of these companies around 5 percent give or take. The rates will not be mca rates nor will the terms length of repayment. The product is designed to go after bankable merchants but offer a quicker funding outlet vs the red tape banks put merchants through. Lending Club will prob be the largest peer to peer business lending platform in the coming years with others trying to mimic them as data comes in. They do not hold the balance sheets and are simply an intermediary platform that will manage bringing the risk scoring, customers, to their investors. The CEO of lending club has gone public about the lack of technology in the mca space and the high rates and believes they can capture a underserved marketplace. This is not a broker driven platform to make large commissions.
    Last edited by MCAVeteran; 12-31-2013 at 11:43 AM. Reason: Spell



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