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why .50% commissions? $350k and under is 1% :cool: did you just make someone $8gs
I've been in the credit card processing industry for 21 years and in MCA for 2 years with a few thousand merchants in our portfolio and have majority of our merchants personal and business information already.
Each of the 10 merchants i wrote up have authorize me to talk to their accountant, i suggest this as its a short cut and cuts alot of time.
The way i know what documents to be collected is from the broker i work with. The way they knows what docs is through their lender.
Like i mentioned I haven't received one approval from my 10 deals I don't know if they are going to require more docs! maybe they will and maybe they wont, hell who knows. Point is I'm trying not to waste to much time in a forum and start turning in deals.
i'm not saying I got this thing figured out, at the beginning I was struggling with the doc collection but its getting easier now
What i'm finding out is that those same accountants, bookkeepers are referring me merchants now little by little, 2 today.
They are sending a complete file with all the docs which helps tremendously.
If and when i get approvals and paid commission ill let you guys know, to many damm Debbie downers here.
Im sharing this because i didn,t know what the heck i was doing at the beginning, still uncertaint, no approvals yet,
trial and error.
Heres the Structure
$350k or less = 0.50%
$350K - $2 million = 0.25%
$2 million + = $0.125%
they are just sharing 50% of what they get. Some might say not worth it, to me it is.
Most of my deals are below $350K so ill fall under the 0.50%
I anticipate to write up $2 - 2.5 million in volume each month April & May 20-25 deals per month = majority from referrals & my existing merchants. maybe less maybe more. Lets get to work.
In addition in still working on MCA.
Lots of things can happen, i see a great opportunity
It’s actually a whole lot of nothing. They’ve partnered with Resource bank (a bank that just isn’t doing these right now). Nothing is happening with PPPs until the Federal Reserve becomes the lender. I say let the Fed lend, and use the fintech guys to underwrite. Let the banks get back to doing 7(a)s.
The Fed is never and should never do that....they are just not set up to monitor the back-end to insure the funds go to the right place. The thought of having fintech help in the process might help, but they are not set up to handle the back-en either. If this occurs, the funds the fed is putting up will certainly disappear.
You need to have separate bank accounts set up to insure the money is being used as intended. Co-Mingling funds would be a disaster.
Right now the commingling of funds can’t matter. It has to be the speed of getting the cash out there and worry about oversight later. Let there be huge losses. Let there be waste. We are going to see a $5T hit to the economy. Getting cash out to these companies can’t be help up any longer.
But, the trouble with this is you put the responsibility on the bank's back. If the money does not go where it was intended, you can cool believe the Feds are not backing the loan if it fails. We need to get the money out to the businesses quickly, but it needs to be done the right way.
No way in hell the Feds are eating a loss if the money is not used for purposes intended.
If the FED becomes the lender, and let the loans be processed by the banks for fintech, there isn’t exposure to the banks. Let the banks/fintech make 5% so that it’s economical. As for commingling, if the borrower does, it’s converted to a loan without forgiveness. That’s still a good deal.
At this point these rescue efforts can’t be viewed in a way in which the Treasury intends to recover the funds. If they commingle they just won’t get access to the next tranche (there will be at least 4 tranches). This has to be seen as stimulus to fill the void left by consumer spending collapsing.
Please keep in mind the important fact that the fed can print unlimited money.. what does it matter if some funds go to the wrong place and is misused if they can hold off a complete collapse.
Long term the value of our fiat currency will take a hit, as more people wake up but that is an entirely diffrent conversation regarding currency manipulation, the gold standard, bitcoin, fiat currency, and the old world bartering and trading system.
I thought on what SHOULD have been done.....
If the goal is for the Fed to float payroll for small businesses then do just that. Most small businesses are using a payroll service and if not would be required to join to obtain the stimulus. The business owner files a payroll report to the fed and which service they are using. if the business qualifies the payroll is funded on a regular basis through the bushiness's payroll service. These payroll services like ADP would be required to process the Fed payrolls for a large reduced rate and off-set with a tax credit. Problem solved....the money goes to the right place on a regular basis.
For business relief, small businesses would be required to apply through a bank for a smaller about of funding to help with other business expenses other than payroll. They would be qualified institutions that can quickly open separate business account for the relief funds so they can be dispersed and tracked.
KH
When facing a sudden stop in the economy, “waste fraud and abuse” doesn’t even matter. I could see 30% of the businesses evaporating next Friday. ****, that’s probably a conservative estimate. When facing a sudden stop and deflation like we’ve never had in history you’ve literally got to throw dollars at the problem. You worry about hyper-inflation when things are somewhat stabilized.
The way I view it, the patient (US economy) is having a massive heart attack, and the rescue as of right now is equivalent of having the doctors arguing about what lightbulbs should be used in the ER to make sure the hospital captures $5 that year in energy efficiency savings.
the fact that the gov has to float payroll in itself is troubling. Q2 is going to be a very bad Qtr and many are praying they make up for it with fees on the PPP
I agree somewhat, but you need to have the right doctors in the room. If the goal is to float the payroll ....then float the payroll. It's a hell of a lot easier than making these small business apply for the funds for payroll through banks. Also.....they don't have to float the payroll all at once. They can do so on a regular basis for the next several months. Keep in mind, most business owners are on the same payroll.
Something just crossed my mine... Similar to the way they are doing unemployment benefits. Maybe they can use a similar method with the Sales Tax info.... When I submit my monthly sales tax report, I have to tell them the Gross revenue, then I also tell them how much revenue was taxable... So that means they have a snapshot of how much money my business normal brings in.. Maybe if they would use that info to determine how the virus has impacted your business to then give funds to compensate for the difference in gross revenue..
PRE Corona monthly revenue $50,000
POST Corna monthly revenue $1,000.
Some kind of way they use that info to determine how much help each business needs.
As gross revenue increases the help is rolled back.
Goverment or Lender....Doesn't say anything about Document Preparation/Brokers.
I know a guy who made MILLIONS AND MILLIONS on Student Loan Deferment, Yes the Government didn't charge anything to Apply, But he would charge $300 Bucks to Complete/File your Paperwork.
Tax Preparation - Same thing.
Regarding PPP - a business owner more than likely go their CPA/Accountant/Bookkeeper to provide the SBA Bank with payroll documents etc.
But if you think you want to play the game of "Document Preparation/Broker download, read & understand
SBA Form 159D - FEE DISCLOSURE FORM AND COMPENSATION AGREEMENT
For Agent Services In Connection With an SBA Disaster Assistance Loan
Technically your not Charging a Fee on the LOAN
Your Charging a Service Fee to FILE the PAPERWORK in ORDER TO APPLY for the LOAN....
Im not a Lawyer.... But I could make a case.....
Murky Waters - Keep in mind the merchant is applying for a "Loan" - Let's assume for a moment you are correct,
and you change the maximum $2500.00 fee that is allegedly allowed on the SBA Form 159D - Merchant is declined - then what?
Also IMO - there are a few land mines in the agreement.
https://disasterloan.sba.gov/ela/Documents/Fee_Disclosure_Form_and_Compensation_Agreement_(15 9D).aspx
Whose to say the Fee I am charging is limited just to that specific program??????
I've had "Brokers" Charge massive upfront Fee's then shop the merchants file to me, and i get them an MCA (this happens alot in the asian community for some reason)
If Im charging an Upfront Service Fee - Whatever you want to call it, to Capture that Customer, then shopping their file SBA, LOC, MCA Whatever...... all I'm saying is.....IT HAS BEEN DONE.
Also If your Agreement makes it clear your Fee is for Document Preparation and Filing and ETC ETC and is Paid upfront and has nothing to do with them being Approved or not. Its just like the example I used above with the Student Loan Deferment - Yea you can Apply yourself, and hopefully it works out, or you can pay our fee and let us handle it for you.
And if your charging more than $2,500 thats ridiculous anyway
Ryan,
Investment Bankers use a similar model. There were time when I would charge a client an advisory fee for seeking alternative options for a business. There would be an upfront retainer charged and an hourly rate. For capital raises: Always an exclusive agreement, retainer, and success fees. Size of transaction and scope of work usually dictates fees.
My last engagement as an investment banker was for an advisory role that ultimately turned into a capital raise.
Advisory was $25K upfront and $300 an hour plus expenses. The capital raise was $75Mil .....combination of equity and debt. I lowered the retainer on that portion to $15K . Success fee was 2% on any debtor....senior or mezz. Equity was 2% plus equity/warrants on the back end. I still have the warrants.... Equity closed was $40Mil with a Family Office I know well. Senior and mezz was $35Mil ....bank and mezz fund. I deducted the retainers from fees at closing.
The amount of income taxes and sales tax hits will be mind blowing. Us postal service will be insolvent without money by September. The us govt doesnt have the means to worry about businesses not using the money properly.
I knew it that this would be a perfect fit for PayPal! Laws and regulations were made by people and can be changed by people. Short term "the juice is not worth the squeeze". But long term, these Fintech companies are about to Checkmate the Banks.
Damn, this coronavirus is really changing the landscape! This is crazy exciting times we living in and witnessing.... Madonaa called it when she said "Coronavirus is the great equaliser"..
PayPal, Intuit QuickBooks approved to hand out emergency funds to small businesses in coronavirus program
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/11/payp...ness-loan.html
After weeks of lobbying, fintech companies are officially allowed to take part in the*U.S.government’s emergency lending program.*
Financial Innovation Now*— an industry group representing Square, PayPal, Intuit, Stripe and other non-bank finance companies — sent a letter to Congress in March asking that their members be included in any emergency funding.
“Small businesses are not well served by traditional financial institutions, nor will existing federal small business loan programs deliver funds soon enough,” the letter reads. “Any federal small business loan program must leverage digital advances in the marketplace to ensure that stimulus can reach those business most in need.”
PayPal said it has provided access to more than 900,000 loans and cash advances, and access to more than $15 billion in funding to more than 305,000 small businesses.*
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/11/payp...ness-loan.html
On another note...
I can't wait to day trade the stock market on Monday! I feel really good about this! If you are on shelter in place and have time on your hands please look into doing some daytrading.. My gains have be crazy over the last 2 weeks!. Td ameritrade is free to setup an account, and free to trade, but you will be subject to FINRA PDT rules .. If you want to leverage your money up to 6 times and not be govered by the Finra PDT rules you have to setup an offshore account, but that is really simple and not as scary as it sounds.
"Who are you?" "I'm BATMAN!"
Hmmmmm.....
When I 1st mentioned PayPal being a perfect fit to do this you immediately co-signed and stated they will be doing this, like you knew the future....
Perhaps you are privi to some inside info, or you know the future.. Either way, I will be paying even more attention to your commentary.
LOL the same guy asking how to default if things get "bad enough" has offshore bank accounts and is levering up on day trades.
What does my personal hobby day trading have to do with my business entity and my job?
You seriously need to level up.
Winners Win point blank period.
Life gives you lemons, you make lemmonade.
There are tons of positive ways you can look at how I approach what all is going on. But you choose to look at it in a negative light.
BTW, I did not say I had off shore accounts. I did not say who I use. I only provided information.
If you have over $25k in an american brokerage like TD Ameritrade. You are not governed by the FINRA PDT rules, and really no reason to deal with an overseas brokerage. I am not saying what I have, cause that does not matter.. I am only giving info that could potentially help someone else.
So as I Said, 2-3 weeks worse case businesses started seeing their money. There are people saying so in the FB group - 'CARES Act SBA Loan Insight Hub' and heres a link https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paychec...wing-loan-sba/
If you want info directly from the SBA, since you do not appear to want to listen to others on this Forum,
sign up for the SBA Updates - http://www.sba.gov/updates
You will receive email updates, plus invitations
to the SBA Small business Recovery Webinars - I'm assuming they are holding these events in different regions of the USA