[Karen37a]

PS...The 100 phone calls were sometimes coming from the Funder that I was closing thru...I was holding on thru the close, blocking an inside broker from calling and drop closing( rate) and backdooring me. ( I became a master of recognizing this and holding on thru the close)

I am calling saying " are you going to make the merchant call soon" ...daysssssssssss went by...I held onto that deal like my life depended on it ( and others)

( the dead stall in underwriting counter move 101)

Funded

Then you step back and say " was it worth it and do I ever want to send a deal again...no"

[Karen37a]

To the Good brokers out there...keep pressing and play this song at a team party when a few more go out of business.

Big players do not have to make a living backdooring, it's a piker move. Like forced defaults/debt relief and stacking all on the same day.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhz_m-tgi2Y Timber

[WestCoastFunding]

To the Good brokers out there...keep pressing and play this song at a team party when a few more go out of business.

Big players do not have to make a living backdooring, it's a piker move. Like forced defaults/debt relief and stacking all on the same day.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhz_m-tgi2Y Timber

Karen will explain in detail if you call her at 716-800-4957

[MCNetwork]

Karen? Is that you?

[FUNd]

Bottom line. Establish a solid relationship with your client, warn them of the climate of the industry and that they will be receiving unsolicited calls as soon as their deal is submitted and to only communicate with you, and most importantly never provide the correct phone number or email address on the application you submit. When it's time to fund, then you can provide the correct contact information to the lender. At no time should anyone need the merchants cell or email until the funding call.

Be smart. Watch your back, and these situations can be avoided.

[Karen37a]

Karen will explain in detail if you call her at 716-800-4957

Too much drama...Heres the crazy part

95% of brokers are going to quit....so why to steal from the 5%?...the others are leaving the deals behind.( I said this 2 years ago..i said look around most will not be here)

Always have been ...always will be. lead leads leads....few strong closers

That person is watching their number pop up...I bet if you call them saying " howdy , id like a cash advaance" they will still call back lol

[Christian]

Karen will explain in detail if you call her at 716-800-4957

Gold

[Karen37a]

West do you have everyone in Calif following you? You need to make sure they understand you are joking.

Sometimes when you say "entombed" I have to ask vito who is sitting next to me what that means lol

[Karen37a]

ok I am getting my cheery disposition back...I am sitting here laughing remembering the Bosnian guy who told the underwriter to f off.

He sounded like latka graves from taxi ( for those old enough to remember )

( I said omg what did you say to the underwriter....with an accent " i told him to a fk ah, a fk a you..fk face, isnt that what you told me to do?") lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r59AWfhwpPg

[ryan $]

Update.

Person at phone wont answer .... It never goes to VM. I have tried 20 diff from numbers. Merchant tried calling back etc.

I have 2 Solid Names. 2 Repeated Names from several of you. All very convincing.

No Confirmation. Smh.

P.S. It is a **** deal. It went to funders that would fund it.

[Karen37a]

Update.

Person at phone wont answer .... It never goes to VM. I have tried 20 diff from numbers. Merchant tried calling back etc.

I have 2 Solid Names. 2 Repeated Names from several of you. All very convincing.

No Confirmation. Smh.

P.S. It is a **** deal. It went to funders that would fund it.

You posted the number, they are probably watching.

They are not going to pick up unless they think they can make money.If you really want to find out...wait a month...then call.Pretending to be a merchant ( or they change their number)

its not worth it...deals are always going to be moved around...lock down the merchant and be prepared for it.

There is a reason we do not "shotgun" out our applications to 5 funders...you cant narrow down the backdoor mole

An assistant or processor could take the phone number and pass it to her cousin(mole)...only way to close is to lock down the merchant. ( which cant be done by massisvly passing thru applications)

Welcome to the upper level...some never get here


** and this is why Ive told people from day one " join a reputable Iso and make your bones before you spend 5 k on furniturre and 10k on leads and 30k on payroll, because most will never make it **

[Finance1]

I've been running into some trigger lead stuff. Some of the approaches are really good (and deceptive). Not saying this is a trigger lead scenario but the possibility exists.

[ryan $]

I've been running into some trigger lead stuff. Some of the approaches are really good (and deceptive). Not saying this is a trigger lead scenario but the possibility exists.

Wasnt Trigger Leads. WIthout giving out too much info - It was backdoored. I am sure.

[ridextreme]

Wasnt Trigger Leads. WIthout giving out too much info - It was backdoored. I am sure.

all you have to do is call the number from a different phone, tell him you're returning a call from X business, and what do you have to do to move forward. Then give him an email address you've created using the name of the merchant or business in it so it seems legit, then when he emails you, you will know who he is.

Since I saved you $500, just send me 100 and we'll call it even.

[ryan $]

all you have to do is call the number from a different phone, tell him you're returning a call from X business, and what do you have to do to move forward. Then give him an email address you've created using the name of the merchant or business in it so it seems legit, then when he emails you, you will know who he is.

Since I saved you $500, just send me 100 and we'll call it even.

He doesnt answer the phone from ANY number - I tried from THE merchants number he was trying to get

[ridextreme]

He doesnt answer the phone from ANY number - I tried from THE merchants number he was trying to get

He's obv reading DF.

[RevivingDeadPresidents]

He doesnt answer the phone from ANY number - I tried from THE merchants number he was trying to get

Yes he does. he answered my a call yesterday.

[ryan $]

Yes he does. he answered my a call yesterday.

The 20 Times I have tried he didnt

[Karen37a]

all you have to do is call the number from a different phone, tell him you're returning a call from X business, and what do you have to do to move forward. Then give him an email address you've created using the name of the merchant or business in it so it seems legit, then when he emails you, you will know who he is.

Since I saved you $500, just send me 100 and we'll call it even.

I gave this advice already on this thread 1/2 days ago ....you are BACKDOORING ME for my $100 ...


** this is a joke before someoen starts calling out "isaac, marcus, funders , what do you think, has karen taken $100 dollars away from someone before " ***

[RevivingDeadPresidents]

The 20 Times I have tried he didnt

ill get you what you need

[Karen37a]

ill get you what you need

Here we go....Vito....get off the computer and get on the phone lol

[WestCoastFunding]

ill get you what you need

As he sharpens an ice pick.

[shieldfunding]

on the $$$ lol

You expect not to get backdoored with a funder list like this? They all backdoor. Goodluck seeing this deal again.

[johndough17]

You aren't direct funders or are ya?

[johndough17]

agreed. the only one I trust in that list is cap call.